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Based on evidence, is this child "genius" aspergic?
yes 21%  21%  [ 3 ]
no 79%  79%  [ 11 ]
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30 Apr 2009, 4:37 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8026439.stm

This 2 year old has become the youngest British member of mensa. Have a look at the video. Two things that occur to me are the lack of eye contact with the psycologist, particularly at the beginning and also your repition of the same question. She also obviously has highly unusual neurophysiopyscology.

If she is on the spectrum she can't be autistic since that would require a language delay beyond 2 years of age which she clearly isn't experiencing.

So does anyone else think this little girl could have asperger's?



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30 Apr 2009, 4:58 pm

She seems to be normal to me. At least she's making eye contact naturally. She might have ADHD because she moves around a lot, but that can possibly be normal as well. And she's very active emotionally unlike kids with AS who are avoidant and very shy.



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30 Apr 2009, 5:09 pm

Don't see it.

She's engaged with the person. When she was focusing on whatever else she was doing, she could easily go back to answering his questions and give eye contact.

Some kids are just gifted. Not all kids that are gifted have autism.

Also I find this quote a little strange. What does it mean?

"Elise's parents correctly identified that she is an exceptional child. They now realise they have an interesting challenge on their hands as she grows up.

Is it she will get picked on or what exactly?



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30 Apr 2009, 5:14 pm

So mensa only cares about the number? When she reaches school, she may seem far more normal. Besides, at her age, an IQ of 154 isn't that big of a stretch. And how many kids her age are ever even tested?

As for how she is acting, she acts merely like someone that isn't interested. I don't blame her.
So I would saay that this doesn't indicate her intelligence OR whether or not she is autistic.



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30 Apr 2009, 5:24 pm

It is hard to say whether the little girl is on the spectrum or not. But it is likely that she has a very good rote memory.



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30 Apr 2009, 5:58 pm

2ukenkerl wrote:
So mensa only cares about the number? When she reaches school, she may seem far more normal. Besides, at her age, an IQ of 154 isn't that big of a stretch. And how many kids her age are ever even tested?

As for how she is acting, she acts merely like someone that isn't interested. I don't blame her.
So I would saay that this doesn't indicate her intelligence OR whether or not she is autistic.


yeah i've always questioned the inclusion of general knowlegde tests in an IQ assessment cos it essentially means you can cram for a test to raise your score. It seems to me that they've based her assessment mainly on her ability to recall factual information cos i can't see anyway to test a toddler's processing ability.

I'll admit she definitely has a remarkable memory



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30 Apr 2009, 6:21 pm

CambridgeSuperman wrote:
2ukenkerl wrote:
So mensa only cares about the number? When she reaches school, she may seem far more normal. Besides, at her age, an IQ of 154 isn't that big of a stretch. And how many kids her age are ever even tested?

As for how she is acting, she acts merely like someone that isn't interested. I don't blame her.
So I would saay that this doesn't indicate her intelligence OR whether or not she is autistic.


yeah i've always questioned the inclusion of general knowlegde tests in an IQ assessment cos it essentially means you can cram for a test to raise your score. It seems to me that they've based her assessment mainly on her ability to recall factual information cos i can't see anyway to test a toddler's processing ability.

I'll admit she definitely has a remarkable memory


How can you tell? She covered one little area, and a LOT of kids have done that! Frankly, I didn't see ANYTHING astounding. BESIDES, kids remember easier.



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30 Apr 2009, 6:28 pm

kittenmeow wrote:

"Elise's parents correctly identified that she is an exceptional child. They now realise they have an interesting challenge on their hands as she grows up.

Is it she will get picked on or what exactly?


I think that exceptionally gifted children require constant stimulation and can be very challenging, especially when the child learns to outsmart their parents in a way that adults can. As they would still be a child they would be immature and not realise the consequences of their actions and not understand why there are boundaries. Gifted people constantly push boundaries. So I can imagine that a really clever child would be particularly difficult to manage.


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