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09 May 2009, 5:17 am

Does anyone know of any disorders/syndromes etc etc that have negative social effects, but that are not autism/aspergers? I want to know because like most of you here, I seem to have some problems with social skills, but I have none of the obsessive interests or other AS-particular effects so I want to see if theres something else I may 'have'.

And yes I know this is a thread that isn't about Autism, but I figured this board was for discussion of all mental disorders, so that these conversations wouldn't spill over onto the other boards. By all means put it someplace else if there is a place for it =/

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09 May 2009, 5:38 am

Apart from ASD, there is:

1. "Antisocial personality disorder" (Basically Psychopathy/Sociopathy)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisocial ... y_disorder
(Scroll down to the Symptoms to see if it fits you)

Most psychopats can go through life without any problems and have good careers where emotions are more of a problem than an advantage (Forensics technicians, surgeons). It is the ones that refuse to adapt to society and make trouble (whether inside the constraints of the law or outside it) that get into problems.

2. You could just be antisocial and have little interest in social interaction like me while being too old/grown out of it to be above the cutoff point (32 points on the AQ test).

The obsessive interests are just one part of the symptoms, you are not required to have all. ASDs is not a disease where the symptoms are as sharp and clear as the difference between night and day. You can read more about this in the DSM-IV diagnostic criterias.

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09 May 2009, 5:41 am

I think it's important to differentiate between asocial behaviour and anti social behaviour.

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Antisocial Personality Disorder is a condition characterized by persistent disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood. Deceit and manipulation are central features of this disorder. For this diagnosis to be given, the individual must be at least 18, and must have had some symptoms of Conduct Disorder (i.e., delinquency) before age 15. This disorder is only diagnosed when these behaviors become persistent and very disabling or distressing.

Possible disorders which could be associated with social problems
1) Borderline PD

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People with BPD often have highly unstable patterns of social relationships. While they can develop intense but stormy attachments, their attitudes towards family, friends, and loved ones may suddenly shift from idealization (great admiration and love) to devaluation (intense anger and dislike). Thus, they may form an immediate attachment and idealize the other person, but when a slight separation or conflict occurs, they switch unexpectedly to the other extreme and angrily accuse the other person of not caring for them at all. Even with family members, individuals with BPD are highly sensitive to rejection, reacting with anger and distress to such mild separations as a vacation, a business trip, or a sudden change in plans. These fears of abandonment seem to be related to difficulties feeling emotionally connected to important persons when they are physically absent, leaving the individual with BPD feeling lost and perhaps worthless. Suicide threats and attempts may occur along with anger at perceived abandonment and disappointments.

2) Avoidant PD and Social Phobia

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Anxious (Avoidant) Personality Disorder is a condition characterized by extreme shyness, feelings of inadequacy, and sensitivity to rejection. These individuals feel inferior to others. This disorder is only diagnosed when these behaviors become persistent and very disabling or distressing. This diagnosis should be used with great caution in children and adolescents for whom shy and avoidant behavior may be appropriate (e.g., new immigrants).

3) Schizotypal PD

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Schizotypal personality disorder is a serious condition in which a person usually has few to no intimate relationships. These people tend to turn inward rather than interact with others, and experience extreme anxiety in social situations.

4) Schizoid PD

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Schizoid personality disorder is a condition in which people avoid social activities and consistently shy away from interaction with others. People with the disorder are generally loners with a profound inability to connect with others and form personal relationships.

As far as I know that is it, although any type of emotional problems (anxiety, depression etc) could also be associated with it. Hope this helps.

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09 May 2009, 5:44 am

yeah autism isn't antisocial, we'd love to be social, but we don't have what it takes. also this site isn't a general mental health support site it's an online resource and community for autism and aspergers.

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09 May 2009, 5:57 am

PDD-NOS, perhaps.

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09 May 2009, 6:00 am

I was diagnosed with Schizotypal personality disorder (wikipedia). Though it wasn't right, because I do want friends and stuff. With schizotypal one isn't interested in having friends or having sex with people.

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09 May 2009, 8:00 am

I was misdiagnosed as schizoid in 1988 and later in 1999 misdiagnosed as having a BPD (borderline personality disorder) until 2003. I can socialise alright only with certain kinds of people but not in general and only out of that chosen group I have had a relationship. With neurotypicals they are only out for what they can get and I have not been able to socialise with them. Since 1977 I was put with neorotypical and that is when problems started mainly withtheir Aspiphobia which led to me being diagnosed correctly as having Asperger syndrome. My family are also Aspiphobes :arrow:

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09 May 2009, 8:55 am

i_wanna_blue wrote:

I think it's important to differentiate between asocial behaviour and anti social behaviour.

Well, you are right. Then i am not anti-social, i am asocial. I have nothing against other people, just as long as they stay away from me

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09 May 2009, 11:41 am

am not someone who can quote criterias,but am sure for PD [personality disorders] they have an adult age of onset,whereas autism and as are recognised in early childhood.

try and get as much history as possible on self from childhood years.

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09 May 2009, 8:33 pm

KingdomOfRats wrote:

as are recognised in early childhood.

Not exclusively in the childhood. Maby in 20 years or so when all grown up AS'ers have been found. AS is still a new diagnosis and lots of adults are diagnosed when they are - adults.

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09 May 2009, 9:29 pm

Ichinin wrote:

KingdomOfRats wrote:

as are recognised in early childhood.

Not exclusively in the childhood. Maby in 20 years or so when all grown up AS'ers have been found. AS is still a new diagnosis and lots of adults are diagnosed when they are - adults.

There is still a recognizable onset during child-hood.

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09 May 2009, 9:58 pm

Ichinin wrote:

KingdomOfRats wrote:

as are recognised in early childhood.

Not exclusively in the childhood. Maby in 20 years or so when all grown up AS'ers have been found. AS is still a new diagnosis and lots of adults are diagnosed when they are - adults.

Ahhh! I hate how slow this website is! Really.

Anyways, if this will even make it to the board and not route me to that dang video when I try to submit this: As the person above says Autism and AS symptoms are there from the beginning, whereas a PD doesn't usually kick in until early adulthood. So if you've started having your issues in your teen years, you're probably not AS. If you've been having issues for as long as you can remember, you're likely on the spectrum.

*Crosses fingers as pushes the Submit button*

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09 May 2009, 10:09 pm

pandd wrote:

Ichinin wrote:

KingdomOfRats wrote:

as are recognised in early childhood.

Not exclusively in the childhood. Maby in 20 years or so when all grown up AS'ers have been found. AS is still a new diagnosis and lots of adults are diagnosed when they are - adults.

There is still a recognizable onset during child-hood.

...and again, there is still lots of people being diagnosed when they are adults.

Now, are we going to repeat this post-the-obvious exercise or are you going to read what i wrote in my post, especially that "not exclusively" part which did not deny what i was responding to and made your post unnecessary?

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09 May 2009, 10:37 pm

Ichinin wrote:

pandd wrote:

Ichinin wrote:

KingdomOfRats wrote:

as are recognised in early childhood.

Not exclusively in the childhood. Maby in 20 years or so when all grown up AS'ers have been found. AS is still a new diagnosis and lots of adults are diagnosed when they are - adults.

There is still a recognizable onset during child-hood.

...and again, there is still lots of people being diagnosed when they are adults.

No kidding, I would know since I happen to be one of them. I would not have been diagnosed as an adult by the person who diagnosed me if I did not report recognizable onset during early childhood.

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09 May 2009, 10:48 pm

Ichinin wrote:

pandd wrote:

Ichinin wrote:

KingdomOfRats wrote:

as are recognised in early childhood.

Not exclusively in the childhood. Maby in 20 years or so when all grown up AS'ers have been found. AS is still a new diagnosis and lots of adults are diagnosed when they are - adults.

There is still a recognizable onset during child-hood.

So, a rat isn't a rat UNTIL we call it a rat? What kind of logic is that?

They are saying that just because they didn't get diagnosed until adulthood doesn't mean the symptoms weren't there.

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09 May 2009, 10:51 pm

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So, a rat isn't a rat UNTIL we call it a rat? What kind of logic is that?

Platonic?

The Shadows in the Cave logic?

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