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Darrenj777
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14 May 2009, 7:10 am

I have been dxed with aspergers and alot of Adhd symptoms. i have alot or almost all of both traits. i find it hard to concerntrate yet if i become interested i am then so focused and obcessive etc.... i am soemtimes not very comunicative at all and then i wont shut up and become really really hyper! wondered if many Aspies also have adhd like symptoms? for example i can just break away mid converstaion with my friends and after a few seconds i remember that i was talking with them and i just got attracted to soemthing else! seems really rude!

its kind of differcult to fit in when your a hyperactive really talkative, but very focused, and knowlegable baby faced 30 year man!



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14 May 2009, 7:17 am

yes!! lol nice to meet you.. i am, in my opinion, ADHD & Aspergers, with a dash of anxiety.. well i'm human first & foremost but you know..
i often talk & talk, not really able to stop & i've not really ever been able to stay still.. is an interesting combination to say the least.



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14 May 2009, 7:18 am

I'm HFA and have ADHD. I think there is a lot of overlapping between ASD's and ADHD. I am classic ADHD (very hyper, very distractable) but also have so many symptoms of ASD.

I think I am like a HFA who takes inappropriateness to a whole new level...


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14 May 2009, 7:25 am

When I was a child (in the late 1980s and early 1990s), I used to be more hyper and very weird. I would be all alone, happy and talking to myself. I was corrected by kindergarten teachers - they used to scotch tape my mouth and make me feel bad. And they would give me lunch after all the others had finished.

Nowadays, I find it extremely anxious to talk to other people. I don't talk aloud to myself either.



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14 May 2009, 10:39 am

I have AS/HFA and ADHD. Both (HFA+ADHD) full disorders, not symptoms. I found the combination brings as much advantages as disadvantages for me personally. Some things are easier than for autistic people, people with AD(H)D and normal people, some things change all the time, some things are harder for me than for autistic people, people with AD(H)D and normal people.


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14 May 2009, 10:42 am

I have AS and ADHD. In fact my ADHD is so bad, I have no idea what your post said beyond the first sentence, besides a random word here and there that my brain picked out for whatever reason. No kidding ... this gets me in trouble every day of my life, not reading what people write to me, not noticing important things in contracts between my company and clients, etc. It reeeeaaaaally screws with me.



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14 May 2009, 10:44 am

I definitely don't have ADHD, but I do have that tendency to get hyper and not know when to stop my hyperactive behaviour.


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14 May 2009, 11:12 am

Wow this is great! seems i am not alone in being some kind of hybrid!!

I am Darren by the way, i am from the UK, nice to meet you all, was to shy to post before now i wont shut up probably!!

sbcmetroguy:II have AS and ADHD. In fact my ADHD is so bad, I have no idea what your post said beyond the first sentence, besides a random word here and there that my brain picked out for whatever reason. No kidding ... this gets me in trouble every day of my life, not reading what people write to me, not noticing important things in contracts between my company and clients, etc. It reeeeaaaaally screws with me.

Man i am feeling you there, i get that alot and i have to read and re-read etc, eyes jump from word to word... i often misread instruction or messages and GET TROUBEL BIG TIME! haha


maybe though having both is a blessing. i find they can cover up each others weaknesses? does anyone find that they result to self medecation or achohol etc to calm the adhd down..? i find thats very tempting as i feel uncomfortable to be my hyperactive talkative self as it really can annoy people!... i was called annoying master in school, in a affectionate way!! :D



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14 May 2009, 11:24 am

*raises hand*

If there was some kind of overlap somewhere down the line, it wouldn't surprise me at all. I know people who'd fit this description very well.

Or if there were indeed such things as personality mosaics (different temperamental components making up one individual's personality). It's the best metaphor I can think of.

Inherited temperaments and characteristics.

I wonder if there are in fact metaphorical "islands" of extreme personality (a bit like chaotic attractors in Maths perhaps?), so it would be possible to say have a mixed temperament if one was between two islands?

I'm sorry if I'm not making much sense, but that's how I see personality variations of a population in my head.

I wonder which personality types could coo-exist inside one person?
Or are some personalities polar opposites and therefore mutually exclusive?



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14 May 2009, 11:36 am

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it makes total sense to me.... like overlapping clouds thats how i think of it

interestingly in traditional chinese medecine they dont have any fixed concept for autism etc (well chinese for atuism is lonely interestingly)... its more thought of a inbalnce of different traits ALL people have. seems to me it allow much more freedom to conceptualise the realitys of autism and its infinitly varying symptoms.... rather than a label



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14 May 2009, 11:44 am

Yupp. Scored pretty high on a ADHD test.

But unlike AS, i have known that i have had problems concentrating my entire life and i have learned to focus on a task (at job), even if it is extremely boring. When i am at home on the other hand, i rarely bother with boring things, in fact i have changed my lifestyle so i do not have to do many of the boring things.



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14 May 2009, 11:58 am

sbcmetroguy wrote:
I have AS and ADHD. In fact my ADHD is so bad, I have no idea what your post said beyond the first sentence, besides a random word here and there that my brain picked out for whatever reason. No kidding ... this gets me in trouble every day of my life, not reading what people write to me, not noticing important things in contracts between my company and clients, etc. It reeeeaaaaally screws with me.


That is pretty much how I am, too.

I have been wondering how Aspies with ADHD are with their "narrow interests". I was professionally diagnosed with ADHD as an adult and I am self diagnosed as having Asperger's. I have main interests that are always there but I flit about with mini interests all the time. For example- I'll hear mention of some actor that intrigues me and I'll spend several hours a day for several days, researching them. Or off and on for several weeks. I'll then hear about some random place like Patagonia and I'll research it for a few days to a few weeks. And then I'll go on to yet something else like studying different kinds of antiques. Then I might spend a few months off and on researching Autism or some other medical thing. This is all intense focused interest on miscellaneous things I find highly fascinating, HOWEVER, because of my ADHD, I will forget a lot of what I had read and like I said, I flit about. I don't consider myself to be an expert in anything.

I sit at my computer for about 14 to 18 hours a day, only getting up to take care of some essentials and then I'm right back at the computer. My main interests are: the internet and researching, DX Ball which I play anywhere from one game to twenty games a day. I spend a couple hours looking at homes for sale online (we're not looking to buying another one now, I just like looking), I spend hours posting on a couple websites, I spend hours watching youtube videos, I collect cookbooks and the list goes on.

So even though I am not focused on only one or two main things like the typical Aspie is, I still think that my interests are narrow and focused, even though I don't always stick to the same ones everyday. I just consider myself an AS person with severe ADHD.



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14 May 2009, 12:04 pm

I for one don't have a special interest. I have all the other symptoms under the category, but not that one. I can't keep to one thing because of my ADHD. I think that might be why I don't have the special interest thingy of AS.


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14 May 2009, 12:09 pm

Sora wrote:
I for one don't have a special interest. I have all the other symptoms under the category, but not that one. I can't keep to one thing because of my ADHD. I think that might be why I don't have the special interest thingy of AS.


That's odd that you were diagnosed as having AS since you don't have a special interest. I bet you do but don't realize it.....



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14 May 2009, 12:11 pm

Darrenj777 wrote:
amber eyes:

it makes total sense to me.... like overlapping clouds thats how i think of it

interestingly in traditional chinese medecine they dont have any fixed concept for autism etc (well chinese for atuism is lonely interestingly)... its more thought of a inbalnce of different traits ALL people have. seems to me it allow much more freedom to conceptualise the realitys of autism and its infinitly varying symptoms.... rather than a label


This is why I wonder about the DSM.
It basically says:

"If you have X, you can't have Z and Y."

Is this assumption actually based on sound experimental evidence, or is it simply based on the politics in a conference room filled with psychiatrists?

While I appreciate that personality and emotional expressions are hard things to define objectively, I think that an effort should be made to try.

At the moment, I seem to agree with this Eastern overlapping view more than the DSM.

Real life is messy: some traits and temperaments can be mixed (look at dog breeds for example).
As an analogy:
What constitutes a normal dog?

If there was some kind of physical mechanism that could account for overlapping personalities, this would be interesting.

Is personality variation be regarded as diffuse and gradational like overlapping clouds?



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14 May 2009, 12:15 pm

I am ADHD-ish in the sense that I can be restless.