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Icarus_Falling
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20 Sep 2007, 2:52 am

gwenevyn wrote:

But in all seriousness, don't you all think it would rock to have your very own bouncy castle? I'm always jealous at the fair, where you have to be four feet or under to get inside.

It may... seem to be so. But life will always throw you a curve ball you don't expect; or so it seems. My wife had bugged me for the longest time to get one of these for our autistic son. Nothing terribly grand, just something similar to the small one you pictured; they sell them at Walmart. And, for some random holiday or birthday, I did. And our son played very happily in it a couple of times. We had an entire room in our house dedicated to housing it. Things were great...

Then, what could possibly happen to wreck this wonderful dream?

Our cats started peeing in it. Not once. Not twice. But constantly. Eventually I had to deflate the bouncy house (as our son called it) and toss it outside as refuse; it stank of cat pee, which is a rather horrid smell.

<sigh> Nothing can ever just work; such is the way of things.

But, if you don't have any cats... I hope you get you bouncy house someday. :wink:

Good fortune,

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20 Sep 2007, 2:53 am

Anubis wrote:

Hi parakeet.

I am NOT a parakeet!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys7ZM5ki850[/youtube]

How are you?

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20 Sep 2007, 2:54 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

I used to work for them, they paid me almost nothing then they fired me. I'm a hard worker and I was getting paid more than anyone in Guatemala, but the cost of living is a lot higher here in Shakopee Minnesota. I was being paid $15,000 less than the cost of living working at two jobs. Everyday I was working in the morning at McDonald's and the afternoon and evening at Wal-Mart.

Pile of Misleading Vividness Fallacies

Keep your personal experience out of debate, another misleading vividness fallacy.

It is your fault if you were working at one of those jobs, not our job to bail you out because you failed and made enemies. The government is NOT your nanny.

The government does no better, medicare is an overbloated, sick monster that needs to be put out of it's misery.

Perhaps if the government wasn't consuming half of your wage for taxes and have a sales tax you could've lived on what you were making.

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gwenevyn
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20 Sep 2007, 2:55 am

Icarus_Falling wrote:

But, if you don't have any cats... I hope you get you bouncy house someday. :wink:

....

... anybody want some cats?

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20 Sep 2007, 2:55 am

Anubis wrote:

The best thing you can do for the countries in Africa is give them jobs with pay that is fair relative to their country's economy, and send peacekeepers to stop warring in the worst countries.

Peacekeepers would be looked down upon by the press and you would see bumperstickers that say "support our peacekeepers" when they're actually fighting to economically starve them out.

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20 Sep 2007, 2:58 am

gwenevyn wrote:

Icarus_Falling wrote:

But, if you don't have any cats... I hope you get you bouncy house someday. :wink:

....

... anybody want some cats?

Only if they're like my old one, but you pay for air freight and quarantine.

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20 Sep 2007, 2:59 am

Anubis wrote:

The best thing you can do for the countries in Africa is give them jobs with pay that is fair relative to their country's economy, and send peacekeepers to stop warring in the worst countries.

How do we determine what is best for their economy? Is there a magic formula that works for every nation?. Peacekeepers violate national sovereignty and would incite more violence.

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20 Sep 2007, 3:01 am

gwenevyn wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Anubis wrote:

Flagg wrote:

We are currently insulting communist, anti-globalization economic philosophy.

Join in.

No. Because I believe in a capitalist state with socialist aspects. Whilst I believe that free trade between anyone should be allowed, it should be regulated as fair trade. Unregulated globalization has done alot of harm to some poorer countries.

Hurt them how?

Giving people jobs and bringing factories to a nation is one of the best things you can do. First step on the road to becoming first world.

Devil's advocate sez:

Providing sufficient economic incentive for a country to mar its lovely countryside and poison its wildlife with the arsenic-tainted remnants of a strip-mining operation?

The nation may choose to enforce enviromental quality standards by taxing it's now richer populace.

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20 Sep 2007, 3:01 am

Flagg wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

It's wal-mart that is to blame for the low, low prices and low wages. Someone has to do that job at the end of the day.

As for 50% tax, that is stupid. There should be progressive taxes or sales taxes. I do agree with that.

What is this medicare thing?

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gwenevyn
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20 Sep 2007, 3:03 am

Quatermass wrote:

gwenevyn wrote:

Icarus_Falling wrote:

But, if you don't have any cats... I hope you get you bouncy house someday. :wink:

....

... anybody want some cats?

Only if they're like my old one, but you pay for air freight and quarantine.

Well, Meriwether Lewis can be a standoffish lump of a thing, for the most part, though he'll murder you in your sleep if you don't pet him when he does want it. Hernando de Soto, on the other hand, is a flamboyant, shameless flirt and way better than any other cat who has ever padded around on the face of this planet--past present or future.

Maybe I'll take my chances.

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20 Sep 2007, 3:04 am

Flagg wrote:

Anubis wrote:

The best thing you can do for the countries in Africa is give them jobs with pay that is fair relative to their country's economy, and send peacekeepers to stop warring in the worst countries.

How do we determine what is best for their economy? Is there a magic formula that works for every nation?. Peacekeepers violate national sovereignty and would incite more violence.

Peacekeepers, using a hearts and mind strategy, and through sufficient national information campaigns should maintain the peace, not incite violence. The peacekeepers would stay to stop the slaughter of innocent civilians and break up inter-faction clashes.

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20 Sep 2007, 3:06 am

Anubis wrote:

Flagg wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Eh, it's something only managers get anyway. Nevermind, prices are low just like the wages they pay most of their employees.

First hand experience is a fallacy, that's stupid.

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20 Sep 2007, 3:06 am

Anubis wrote:

Flagg wrote:

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

Keep your personal experience out of debate, another misleading vividness fallacy.

It is your fault if you were working at one of those jobs, not our job to bail you out because you failed and made enemies. The government is NOT your nanny.

The government does no better, Medicare is an overbloated, sick monster that needs to be put out of it's misery.

Perhaps if the government wasn't consuming half of your wage for taxes and have a sales tax you could've lived on what you were making.

Medicare is the antiquated, failed system founded by the misguided but misinformed Franklin Delano Roosevelt to attempt to insure people who cannot work and who are elderly. It has failed and become a burden on American society.

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gwenevyn
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20 Sep 2007, 3:07 am

Anubis wrote:

Flagg wrote:

Anubis wrote:

The best thing you can do for the countries in Africa is give them jobs with pay that is fair relative to their country's economy, and send peacekeepers to stop warring in the worst countries.

How do we determine what is best for their economy? Is there a magic formula that works for every nation?. Peacekeepers violate national sovereignty and would incite more violence.

Sounds like the fanciful aims of a psychotic control freak girlfriend. Not that my country doesn't already resemble that...

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20 Sep 2007, 3:08 am

Flagg wrote:

The nation may choose to enforce enviromental quality standards by taxing it's now richer populace.

The environment is a worldwide issue.
We need to be aware of this.

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20 Sep 2007, 3:10 am

calandale wrote:

Flagg wrote:

The nation may choose to enforce enviromental quality standards by taxing it's now richer populace.

The environment is a worldwide issue.
We need to be aware of this.

And frankly damage is cheaper to create than to repair, in most instances.

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