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27 Dec 2007, 12:34 am

Just remembering long-ago introductory linguistics lectures. Of course, bien sûr, naturellement, there's a Wikipedia article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_name

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However, Brent Berlin and Paul Kay, in a classic 1969 study of world wide color naming[1] have argued that these differences can be organized into a coherent hierarchy, and that there are a limited number of universal "basic color terms" which begin to be used by individual cultures in a relatively fixed order. Berlin and Kay based their analysis on a comparison of color words in 20 languages from around the world. To be considered a basic color term, the words had to be monoleximic ("green", but not "light green" or "forest green"), high-frequency, and agreed upon by speakers of that language (this last point, however, can be ambiguous, as native speakers may not always agree with each other). Their analysis showed that, in a culture with only two terms, the two terms would mean roughly 'dark' (covering black, dark colors and cold colors such as blue) and 'bright' (covering white, light colors and warm colors such as red). All languages with three colors terms would add red to this distinction. Additional color terms added in a fixed order: green and/or yellow; blue; brown; and orange, pink, purple and/or gray. All languages with six color terms use "black", "white", "red", "green", "blue" and "yellow", which roughly correspond to the sensitivities of the retinal ganglion cells, leading Berlin and Kay to argue that color naming is not merely a cultural phenomenon, but is one that is also constrained by biology, contrary to the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis.[3]

Hmm! My memory is not deteriorating as quickly as I thought.

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27 Dec 2007, 12:40 am

Here's a Wiki page you might find interesting, Ben: Budgerigar Colour Genetics. There's a photo of an albino budgerigar on it.

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27 Dec 2007, 1:46 am

SleepyDragon wrote:

Here's a Wiki page you might find interesting, Ben: Budgerigar Colour Genetics. There's a photo of an albino budgerigar on it.

It is interesting, but I wish they had more pictures as examples.

What do you think of cockatiels being popularly called "crested parakeets"?

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27 Dec 2007, 1:50 am

Wouldn't that lead to their being confused with parakeet-parakeets? Is there a controversy over nomenclature in parrot species? I confess to being completely uninformed on the subject.

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27 Dec 2007, 5:29 am

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Anubis wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_debates_over_Harry_Potter

JK herself "outed" Dumbledore in October?!? Awesome!

Whimpering fanboy/girl: "But... but... there's nothing in canon to support that!" :lol:

She did it as a popularity stunt. I read nothing in HP to suggest that Dumbledore was gay.

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27 Dec 2007, 5:36 am

I win yet again!

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27 Dec 2007, 5:38 am

No! You need to go to bed!

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27 Dec 2007, 6:42 am

Anubis wrote:

SleepyDragon wrote:

Anubis wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_debates_over_Harry_Potter

JK herself "outed" Dumbledore in October?!? Awesome!

Whimpering fanboy/girl: "But... but... there's nothing in canon to support that!" :lol:

She did it as a popularity stunt. I read nothing in HP to suggest that Dumbledore was gay.

But there's nothing to suggest otherwise, really.

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27 Dec 2007, 7:37 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

richie wrote:

The numbers in and of themselves would make for a dull thread but the numbers in relation to other numbers (number theory)
and the various uses of number in different cultures are what make the thread a bit more interesting.

I find the language a little more interesting:

Such as why in English do we have 1-12 unique and then have a suffix of -teen for 13-19?
Why in Spanish are 1-15 unique and then become 10 and 6, 10 and 7, 10 and 8, 10 and 9?
The languages and their history have always interested me.

Numbers are also interesting too, but for me to a lesser extent throughout my life. Still it is interesting and sometimes useful to know things like:

14 = E = 1110 = 0001 0100 = etcetera in different bases and codings

How was your Christmas?

My Christmas was quiet....Called mom she's OK
Looks like I killed the "Count to a million" thread...
As for the language of numbers check out:

Mathematics From The Birth of Numbers

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27 Dec 2007, 8:59 am

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Wouldn't that lead to their being confused with parakeet-parakeets? Is there a controversy over nomenclature in parrot species? I confess to being completely uninformed on the subject.

Maybe a little confusion, crested parakeet is a breeder nickname that some breeders here use for their cockatiels. In actual taxonomic terms cockatiels are Nymphicus hollandicus and more info is on the Wikipedia Page under Taxonomy.

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27 Dec 2007, 9:33 am

richie wrote:

My Christmas was quiet....Called mom she's OK

Glad your mom's alright, hope you weren't too lonely but it's nice to have peace sometimes.

richie wrote:

Looks like I killed the "Count to a million" thread...

I just tried to give it a reboot, hope it'll be up and running again otherwise we'll have to call tech support...

richie wrote:

As for the language of numbers check out:

Mathematics From The Birth of Numbers

That is a fairly exhaustive book for $31, do you own it? I didn't know about the dual, trinal or quadral forms of pronouns, that is quite interesting.

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27 Dec 2007, 10:20 am

This is a book i hope to one day own and read!

GPS for Land Surveyors (PBK) (Paperback)

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27 Dec 2007, 10:33 am

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This is a book i hope to one day own and read!

GPS for Land Surveyors (PBK) (Paperback)

http://www.amazon.com/GPS-Land-Surveyor ... 1575040751

$94 new and $74 used, it is fairly expensive... hope you get it someday. So, what is surveying like?

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27 Dec 2007, 10:50 am

iamnotaparakeet wrote:

dalhousie12 wrote:

This is a book i hope to one day own and read!

GPS for Land Surveyors (PBK) (Paperback)

http://www.amazon.com/GPS-Land-Surveyor ... 1575040751

$94 new and $74 used, it is fairly expensive... hope you get it someday. So, what is surveying like?

Thank you. That link was very helpful. It is very expensive, but amazon has a look inside the book feature where you can read the book online. Im assuming not all of the book but at least part of it.

I love surveying, its a lot of fun. See the Surveying Link.

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27 Dec 2007, 11:42 am

you all need to see

usually they are never like this.

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27 Dec 2007, 11:45 am

Cute, they are getting along.

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