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10 Sep 2008, 4:13 pm

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10 Sep 2008, 4:17 pm

15872045382336327044129125268014971913825377475586919838578035057243596666433462105

15872 045382 336327 044129 125268 014971 913825 377475 586919 838578 035057 243596 666433 462105 =
5 x 157 x 1 472561 x 92 180471 494753 x 148953 605644 242840 431762 356563 438185 533394 886582 362797 645241

Number of divisors: 32


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10 Sep 2008, 4:18 pm

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10 Sep 2008, 4:47 pm

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15 minutes into factoring....
Factoring 41553 554281 937324 111297 039185 688238 919607 027651 133206 312776 412602 212507 675416 588777 (83 digits)

Limit (B1=1000000; B2=100000000) Curve 335
Digits in factor: >= 15 >= 20 >= 25 >= 30 >= 35 >= 40
Probability: 100% 100% 91% 19% 2% 0%

Aborted after 30 minutes....


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10 Sep 2008, 4:51 pm

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Looks more and more like I'll have to write a factorization program. My next little programming job when I've got a few minutes spare. Looks like run time could be a serious problem though unless there are way to optimise the analysis? My guess would be to start with a pre-generated list of prime numbers and just iterate through those testing for exact division for each one.



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10 Sep 2008, 6:56 pm

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108788 617463 475645 289761 992289 049744 844995 705477 812699 099751 202749 393926 359816 304226 =
2 x 13 x 37 x 113 x 421 x 797 x 3457 x 42293 x 54833 x 351 301301 942501 x
1059 009573 400125 529504 166094 598642 626708 730201

Number of divisors: 2048

This is what I am using... http://www.alpertron.com.ar/ECM.HTM

Trial and error division by primes will take forever and a day.


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10 Sep 2008, 10:59 pm

richie wrote:
108788617463475645289761992289049744844995705477812699099751202749393926359816304226

108788 617463 475645 289761 992289 049744 844995 705477 812699 099751 202749 393926 359816 304226 =
2 x 13 x 37 x 113 x 421 x 797 x 3457 x 42293 x 54833 x 351 301301 942501 x
1059 009573 400125 529504 166094 598642 626708 730201

Number of divisors: 2048

This is what I am using... http://www.alpertron.com.ar/ECM.HTM

Trial and error division by primes will take forever and a day.

The program on that site will crunch through numbers FAR larger than are being worked with in this thread, it's just that when it is confronted with a huge composite with, let's say, two 40-50 digit prime factors, it will take some time to do that crunching.

BTW, that first one that he bailed on crunched down to (note, I changed it on mine to show five-digit grouping):

49292 54182 06236 09906 58330 25380 07088 75532 65330 87070 10411 58018 62234
83798 54264 29697 = 16 39241 x 15318 50844 38107 74614 61960 36434 86769 x
19630 07348 39095 06000 33407 90295 13730 73993

Number of divisors: 8

Sum of divisors: 49292 57189 09682 51495 95906 03328 05134 48621 77716 27800
47561 45574 71864 87671 88781 89960

Euler's Totient: 49292 51175 02789 68317 20754 47432 09043 02443 92205 91673
53140 58678 68649 84436 20110 69440

Moebius: -1

Sum of squares: a^2 + b^2
a = 61333 42757 84542 00143 91335 27021 50625 79456
b = 34168 18466 85022 87016 68140 48204 52886 74431

(using an Intel Mac-Mini running MacOSX 10.4.11)

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11 Sep 2008, 3:52 am

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Yes, maybe it would take too long to just use prime division. I'd have to write an algorithm too to handle the long numbers as they are way beyond the normal mathematical operations available in .Net. Writing an algorithm to perform addition of numbers of unlimited size was easy but I can't think of an easy way to program division of such big numbers. In the good old days of assembly programming I had some bright ideas for shortcuts with mathematical operations, so for example to multiply by 10 I'd shift the bits left three times (ROL) then once with the orginal number then add the results and the answer would drop out really fast. 10 x = x * 8 + x * 2



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11 Sep 2008, 2:18 pm

284812298108489611757988937681460995615380088782304890986477195645969271404032323901....Finally found something on OEIS :P

284812 298108 489611 757988 937681 460995 615380 088782 304890 986477 195645 969271 404032 323901 =
13 885829 x 20511 004284 187109 877126 452996 177685 582573 434310 785829 998805 054825 748557 857369

Number of divisors: 4


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11 Sep 2008, 2:46 pm

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11 Sep 2008, 2:49 pm

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11 Sep 2008, 2:51 pm

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