^^ Are you in Wellington right now, Jenny? I haven't been to the Zealandia sanctuary yet, but it's on my to-do list next time I'm down there.
Your fault Radish for getting in the way of the conversation. 
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It is easy to go down into Hell;
Night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide;
But to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air –
There's the rub, the task.
– Virgil, The Aeneid (Book VI)