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25 Dec 2011, 6:36 am

I win

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25 Dec 2011, 8:14 am

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Still hot and cold Jenny?

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25 Dec 2011, 8:22 am

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I like VSO. It just, "fits," perfectly with both my brain and computer. Maybe someday, my computer can acquire some rudimentary level of sentience, sapience, self-awareness, consciousness, and verbal capabilities.

What's VSO?

Verb-Subject-Object. English is (outside of poetry) SVO, or Subject-Verb-Object. Most languages (by a small margin) are SOV, or Subject-Object-Verb.

This will help with the differences (with Adjective-Noun, not Noun-Adjective):

SVO: I ate the meatball.
VSO: Ate I the meatball.
SOV: I the meatball ate.

Of course, the languages generally have a case system, so there's less confusion about which noun is the subject and object. Let's say that the tag, "izet," represents the accusative, or object (assuming a nominative-accusative language), and the word I is, "ego," which becomes, "egoizet," in the accusative case.

Ate ego meatballizet. (I ate (the) meatball)

This is very distinct from the reverse, assuming that word order doesn't matter in the language.

Ate egoizet meatball. ((The) meatball ate me.)

I think I'm already monologuing, but some languages are ergative-absolutive. It would probably be too complicated for a single forum post, but the absolutive is the normal case, much like, "I," is to, "me," and, "thou," is to, "thee." Transitive verbs are verbs with objects, like, "eat." Let's assume again that, "ego," is, "I," and, "izet," represents the ergative case.

Ego ate.
Egoizet ate meatball.

Note how both the subject of an intransitive verb and the object of a transitive verb are in the absolutive. It gets more complicated, with concepts such as valency, but that's the general idea. In VSO, the sentences would look like this:

Ate ego.
Ate egoizet meatball.

Again, it gets complicated with the various modifiers and particles, but that's the basic idea.

It would be eroneous of me to say I will deconstruct that in the morning,
it would be more correct of me to say that I will consider this tomorrow,
however, you would me utterly correct if you said I will have forgotten posting this in the future

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25 Dec 2011, 8:57 am

Merry Christmas everyone!! I win!!

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25 Dec 2011, 8:58 am

Enough of this diametric diabolic diagonic diatribe causing this devilish demonic debatable debacle.

A winner is me!

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25 Dec 2011, 10:39 am

Jargon will not help you win this thread

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25 Dec 2011, 12:45 pm

Au contraire, mon cher ami.

Un gagnant, c'est moi!

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25 Dec 2011, 2:43 pm

C'est bon, ça! Je suis riant! :lol:

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25 Dec 2011, 7:44 pm

Merry Boxing Day Everybuddy!

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25 Dec 2011, 8:08 pm

You too, but you won't win!

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25 Dec 2011, 9:29 pm

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Merry Boxing Day Everybuddy!

Same to you, syzygyish!
(I hope you behaved yourself over Christmas and aren't too hungover today. :hic:

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25 Dec 2011, 10:54 pm

Hi Jenny!
How did you know my terrible secret?
is it because I whirl my slurds?
Or is it because I tell everybuddy?
:scratch:

Anyway, I'm really butting cack!
Up at six today and off bushwalking now.I've been being very good, thank you very much!
I have found a spot where there are these:

Aren't they awesome! Thysanotis tuberosus The Fringed Lily. J'adore!

Tally-Ho and all that!
*Sets off, with a gleam in his eye and a bounce in his step.* :heart:

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26 Dec 2011, 3:40 am

I hope you enjoyed your bushwalk, syzygyish. Those fringed lilies ARE beautiful, although I've never seen them in the wild near where I live.

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26 Dec 2011, 11:16 pm

I win

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26 Dec 2011, 11:58 pm

Oh my it's been quite awhile since I've last been to this thread. I've come to reclaim my title :king:

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