Separation and loss of humans and animals.

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The bond between animals and humans are often stronger than any other feeling. The loss or forced separation from a dog or a cat are sometimes real psychological cataclysms,more damaging than a divorce or a indefinite leave of a known person. Why?
We have organs analogue or homologue to the organs of animals (ears, eyes,limbs etc.). But emotional structures are also organs (modules, as they are called by cognitivists) and there are strong resonances between "modules" of humans and animals. Animal and human limbs, or lungs cannot melt one in another, while connection between the bundles of behavioral cooperativeness (play, defense, assistance, reciprocal cuddling, attachment, dependence), of animals and humans may produce such ties that their rupture may be a an earthquake.

Translation: I am risking the loss of my little dog and I am deperate for that.
It might go under the thread about empathy.

Yes indeed. Look at this:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp ... 4#26486144

I'm so sorry. I know exactly how you feel. I recently lost my beloved 15 year old cat, who I've had since she was a tiny baby. I even bottle-fed her. And I risked losing my ferret, and it's still a slight risk now. I can't begin to help you feel better but I hope you are able to get yourself through this. Make your dog's last days(whether they are few or many) the happiest they've had. Enjoy their company, and he or she enjoys yours.

I'm sorry. It is truly hard when you lose such a good friend.

I know how it is. My best friend Josie the dog moved. It is like a piece of me is gone. I miss her everyday!!

What's happening paolo? Is the owner moving away?

The little dog has been left to me, by the woman who cleans my house, for one year and a half. I cared for her (the dog), fed, cured,walked twice a day, renounced holydays. She expresses vehemently her preference for staying with me. It' s all very complicate and nasty, when all of sudden the original owner pretends to claim her. I am alone and defenseless and there is no "natural right" on the matter. I will see the developments. There should be some ombudsman or something of the sort. Now I feel a hole, my bubble half detroyed, the dog herself defenceless an unhappy. I am 75.

paolo, that's mean spirited of the owner. I've got a link here for you:

http://rome.angloinfo.com/af/243/rome-d ... imals.html


Especially the "Essential Animal Information for Italy" section.

I think you have some rights here, as the owner essentially abandoned the little dog.

Fight the owner. Possession is 9/10 of the law. A court would find in your favor, I think.

You deserve good things.

It's all right Slowmutant. No grudge.

I have recovered for now "my" little dog.

She is microchipped by her owner. She has subsequently always been with me (more than one year) and the number of witnesses of of my "tutorship" is infinite. I have receipts of the vet, of the pet's shops where I went to buy food, toys and everything else she needed. The janitor of the condo where I live, and some of the dwellers of the house are potential witnesses. But, except for the janitor who is a sweet and corageous lady, I wouldn't count much on the other people of the condo who hate each other and are rather squalid people. On the whole my position is strong, I think, and the formal owner knows that. On the next weeks I will see better the situation.

I thank you much for the informations which might be of help, in case of a showdown, which I hope to avoid, and in guiding my behavior.

I must also take into account that, being 75, the little dog will probably survive me in which case perhaps the formal owner, to whom the dog is attached (if not like she is to me) is the best person to take her in custody and care,

"High noon" now (it's 12.30 here). The owner (formally) of the little dog wille arrive here and we will have to settle things about her property. I think she wants money to leave the little dog to me. The little dog has no price for me. It's a ransom, not a sale. I don't care for money, but there are many matters involved. And I am no Gary Cooper. Do you think Gary Cooper was ASD? frankly not.

17: lost the little dog reappropriated by her microchipper. Immense grief and void.

Oh no, you lost her...I am so sorry to hear that Paolo. I don't know what I could say that could make you feel better, I wish I could think of something...my heart goes out to you. I know you will miss each other. Will the owner let you see her sometimes?

Is there a dog sanctuary nearby where you could 'adopt' a dog - my friend did that and it helped her when she lost her dog. Maybe it would help a little.

I will not se the owner nor Kamyla. Atrocious void and grief. she was all I had in living things. I think I will feel the loss even more strongly in forecoming days. I loved her. I will miss her ferociously. a vital piece of my life stripped from me.

Ohhhh paolo.

((((((((((paolo)))))))))

I'm so sorry. This is not right. I'm American; I think you should sue her. What a terrible person.

Do you have any photos of the little dog that we may see?

Losing a pet has- for me- been one of the hardest things to try and get over. One thing I did was to make a quilt of me and my cat, Bully. He was still alive while I was making it but I knew it was only a metter of time. He was 17 years old and his body was simply giving up. He would sleep on the quilt while I worked on it. It's a bitter-sweet reminder but I'm so glad I have it.