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kouzoku
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15 Apr 2013, 9:36 am

You made an entire post about how everyone you've met isn't a true friend and then said that if we're lonely it's our own fault because we need to go out and make friends? For example, you said to go get a job but then went on to say that people at work aren't really friends. That makes no sense whatsoever.

There were a lot of assumptions made in that post, too - namely that none of us go out and make friends. That is far from the truth, at least in my case. Another one is that we "make excuses." Also not true in my case. I consistently go out of my comfort zone and put forth the effort. All one can do is go out and meet people. You cannot FORCE friendships to happen. They occur naturally between two people who can relate to each other in some way. If one is already meeting people and can't make friends, then that's just the way it is. I'm a good person worth knowing AND a good friend to those who are my friend, and I don't believe for a second that AS, or whatever my quirks are, should be blamed. I know that I'm an extremely unique person and a lot of people don't resonate with me - I don't resonate with them either. I'm not a hermit in my home complaining that I don't have friends.

A partner is not something you can pick up at the market. Also not easy to obtain.

Socializing with animals IS one solution for me. It helps me a lot and eases loneliness. I don't "need" social interaction. I greatly dislike a lot of social interaction and it would make me feel worse. Since we are on an AS forum, that probably goes for some of the other posters, too.

Just because some people are lonely doesn't mean they aren't "trying hard enough". That's very condescending.

Also, I wouldn't suggest bars or clubs as far as making "real" friends.

There tends to be extremist thinking on this forum. If someone has friends they aren't an aspie, but if they don't, they aren't trying hard enough. What is with the dichotomous thinking around here?



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15 Apr 2013, 10:41 am

kouzoku wrote:
There tends to be extremist thinking on this forum. If someone has friends they aren't an aspie, but if they don't, they aren't trying hard enough. What is with the dichotomous thinking around here?

It is notable--perhaps it has something to do with 'black and white thinking:"
http://autismdigest.com/the-need-to-be-perfect/
Temple Grandin wrote:
People with autism and Asperger’s Syndrome tend towards black and white thinking. They see themselves and the world around them in polar opposites, and this tendency feeds their need to be perfect.

http://www.autismtoday.com/articles/black_and_white.asp
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Many individuals with autism think in "concrete" or "black and white" terms. They like rules. They follow the rules. They expect every one else to always follow the same rules. They like rules that are always the same way.



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15 Apr 2013, 11:11 am

Hello, I would just like to highlight that there seems to be some confusion over who said what in this thread.
The thread has been resurrected twice too.



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15 Apr 2013, 12:25 pm

Adamantium wrote:
kouzoku wrote:
There tends to be extremist thinking on this forum. If someone has friends they aren't an aspie, but if they don't, they aren't trying hard enough. What is with the dichotomous thinking around here?

It is notable--perhaps it has something to do with 'black and white thinking:"
http://autismdigest.com/the-need-to-be-perfect/
Temple Grandin wrote:
People with autism and Asperger’s Syndrome tend towards black and white thinking. They see themselves and the world around them in polar opposites, and this tendency feeds their need to be perfect.

http://www.autismtoday.com/articles/black_and_white.asp
Quote:
Many individuals with autism think in "concrete" or "black and white" terms. They like rules. They follow the rules. They expect every one else to always follow the same rules. They like rules that are always the same way.


Thanks for the articles.