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matsuiny2004
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28 May 2008, 2:32 am

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Thats a good link matsuiny...that was a good article. I want to point out another important thing to people about human smell.

Research has been done that proves that different women are attracted to different smelling men based on that individuals genetics. So if you are getting rid of that scent by constant covering up with perfumes and deoderants,etc. then women wont know that you are their biological "match". <---sciencey stuff .


What article did you get that from?


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28 May 2008, 8:45 am

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It's totally a social convention, according to the doctors I spoke with. They said it's very important to wash below our wrists [i.e., hands], and the worst thing that could happen to you, if you suddenly became a 17th century person and never washed beyond your wrists, would be some skin conditions or fungal things. It's no doubt comfortable to be clean. But there is no health benefit to washing above the wrists [i.e., the body] other than possibly preventing some fungal things.

All right, call me a health maniac but I don't exactly love the idea of getting fungal things.


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28 May 2008, 8:49 am

Because they stink otherwise.

Have as many showers as you want, but wit dirty clothes, you're still going to smell like crap. Plus they stop feeling clean after a while, soaked in sweat, musty, just generally uncomfortable.



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28 May 2008, 11:56 am

{simple version of immune responses}
there are two levels of resistance to disease in people: innate and cell-mediated. The innate system is what attacks invading bacteria as soon as the skin is broken: at the site of a wound, phagocytes recognize 'non-self' bacteria and consume them. If too many bacteria (read: the person's skin was filthy, or dirt/material from dirty clothing/bacteria living on the injuring object (cat's claw) are introduced into the wound, then the phagocytes are unable to consume all of the bacteria before they start to reproduce and invade the body. Fewer bacteria = better odds for the phagocytes.

If the innate immune response is overwhelmed, the cell-mediated response will kick in - but it takes ~ 3 days unless the pathogen is one that the body recognizes and knows how to fight. {/simple version}

Human skin sheds skin cells continuously and excretes oils and moisture to keep itself supple. All of this forms a nasty mud of oily dead skin that is rubbed off on your clothes and accumulate into a nice medium for bacteria to grow in. The stink is from the by-products of bacterial digestion of those oils and dead cells (rot, in other words).

Humans do have individual, unique smells that are important - but bacterial rot is not one of those smells.

so wash your clothing. :)



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28 May 2008, 1:08 pm

I don't think anyone enjoys being around a smelly person.

plus you have to look fresh, we have a hard enough time developing relationships without being smelly.



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28 May 2008, 2:27 pm

matsuiny2004 wrote:
krex wrote:
Thats a good link matsuiny...that was a good article. I want to point out another important thing to people about human smell.

Research has been done that proves that different women are attracted to different smelling men based on that individuals genetics. So if you are getting rid of that scent by constant covering up with perfumes and deoderants,etc. then women wont know that you are their biological "match". <---sciencey stuff .


What article did you get that from?


It wasn't an article but a show on either Discovery Channel or History channel. I wish I could recall the name of it but it was a show about human attraction and the "human scent" was just part of how people chose partners. The theory was that our genetics knows which genetics whould produce the healthiest off-spring and we respond accordingly in picking someone to mate with. It obviously isn't the only factor in picking a mate but I think it is an interesting one and would have some important implications for people who alter their natural smell , especially users of phermone products who cold be sending out very bad genetic information.


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28 May 2008, 2:31 pm

Haven't you heard of SKID MARKS



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28 May 2008, 2:56 pm

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Haven't you heard of SKID MARKS


Haven't you heard of toilet paper :wink:


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31 May 2008, 9:09 pm

Please Wash Your Clothes. Please do not tell me you go to work in dirty clothes?
I hope you take a bath or shower, and brush your teeth? 8O :?


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31 May 2008, 11:18 pm

krex wrote:
spudnik wrote:
Haven't you heard of SKID MARKS


Haven't you heard of toilet paper :wink:


ahahahhaha, LOL!



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01 Jun 2008, 3:10 am

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It's totally a social convention, according to the doctors I spoke with. They said it's very important to wash below our wrists [i.e., hands], and the worst thing that could happen to you, if you suddenly became a 17th century person and never washed beyond your wrists, would be some skin conditions or fungal things. It's no doubt comfortable to be clean. But there is no health benefit to washing above the wrists [i.e., the body] other than possibly preventing some fungal things.



You mean some smelly guy actually went around to a bunch of doctors and asked them if he should take a bath?


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01 Jun 2008, 6:58 pm

Sounds like you might be allergic to perfumed and dyes cloths cleaners.
You can get smell free and no dye cleaners like All free and tide free
And no dryer sheets helps too, or even air dry the cleaned cloths



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01 Jun 2008, 9:17 pm

So they don't stink, duh. :roll:


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03 Jun 2008, 12:54 am

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Please Wash Your Clothes. Please do not tell me you go to work in dirty clothes?
I hope you take a bath or shower, and brush your teeth? 8O :?


I take showers and brush my teeth, but I do not see the point of washing my clothes.


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03 Jun 2008, 2:21 am

matsuiny2004 wrote:
preludeman wrote:
Please Wash Your Clothes. Please do not tell me you go to work in dirty clothes?
I hope you take a bath or shower, and brush your teeth? 8O :?


I take showers and brush my teeth, but I do not see the point of washing my clothes.


Although I am a deffinate believer that people take washing clothes to a patholigical level...I would still recommend doing it ocassionally. I just base this on one reality.

The body release toxins through the skin and it rubs off with the dead skin cells both of which attract bacteria. When this reaches "critical mass", it can result in clogging your pores with bacteria that can lead to infections. How fast this occures may depend on your level of toxins being removed and how "dirty" your daily environment is (internal human waste through perspiration + external dirt and toxins). I work with dogs so I have to wash my clothes after only a few days because of all the dog "drippings" that accumulate...(eeewwww, dogs drip ALOT).

As long as you aren't over taxing your immune system by "over" exposure(you will know when you are constatnly fatigued and develop boils :wink: ), and people aren't avoiding you because of bacteria wastes smell that you yourself may not smell...then you should be fine. I think most of the bateria dies off once your heat and moisture are denied it for a few days but it seems that it can reactivate when re-exposed to those favorable bacterial growth factors<---humans are a very good bacteria cultivator because of our own heated/moist nature...think "rain forest".

Whatever you decide, I'm just glad to see someone thinking for themselves instead of allowing popular "assumptions" subsitute their own ability to use reason, logic and observation. I thought aspies were supposed to question the "status quo", not except it blindly ? <---(I'm not refering to those of you who have reached a decission to practice "modern hygene" based on their own logic and observation, just those who spout clishas as if they were facts.


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03 Jun 2008, 2:45 am

krex wrote:
spudnik wrote:
Haven't you heard of SKID MARKS


Haven't you heard of toilet paper :wink:

toi let paper? Whats that, we use leaves and sticks here in canada :)