The Dino-Aspie Cafe (for Those 40+... or feeling creaky)

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Hi, Mozart. Welcome to the cafe. Like a muffin? I think we're talking about decorating, good things to eat and over all just having a good time. Heck I think we might even talk about AS here.

I handled them for 10 years, then had to 'retire' cause they kept talking about booze and telling me I was 'just like everyone else.' I knew I was not like everyone else, and they didn't, just that simple so I won't go on and on. I also have this unbelivible gullibility, so I took the steps and promises and World Service and made it real for people. I am True Blue when it comes to beliefs, and will become the absoluet best of a concept. It's just my nature.
Anyway, I got sober and learned how to stay sober in spite of having to be with people and forced to go to people for help. I am forever grateful and that won't change. I don't think my life so important to say 'oh! they saved my life' but I do think they saved that intangible thing known as a soul. And not with their brand of religion, either! I was one of those lucky ones that had hit bottom and laid there for several years and that 'got' it the first time I went to a meeting and haven't needed to take a drink since. I have no doubt I am an alcoholic. I also have no doubt that I can and have and am addicted to mind and emotionally and physically altering substances.
But that doesn't mean I don't understand when someone talks about AA in a negitave fashion.
I aways remember that they are people and overwhelmingly NT, so, there you are.

Yes, Paleo, I recognized the Clovis and could have gone on and on, as I usually do. I suppose it is more accepted here, but it has become a habit to catch myself before I bore the eyes or ears off of anyone. I, too, have held some actual points from France, marveling at the chips and energy of the old ones still caught up in the quartz.

(I tried telling people that is what I was interested in, the energy of the people that handled it that was still in the object. I found that out when I was 7 or 8 and my family took a trip to Mesa Verde and they lost me and found me in the dig with the students going on and on about how my sons went off over the bluff for water and I was so worried as they never returned. My dad had me handed out of the pit, spanked me good and drug me back to the car. (spanking is a nice word for child abuse it and it was completely legal and yes, even expected back in the 1950's)

Pass me a muffin and some of that Italian Roast esspresso. . I have to go to the Tin Mines by 7:30 AM.
Merle

Just wanted to clarify, I put up with GOING to AA for 10 years, but I have been sober for 23 years through AA principles. The principles are always before personality.
Merle

Yup, still use some of them in places, including here, not all of the expierance was bad. I tried to go in with an open mind and a positive attitude, just wasn't for me. So, like a true aspie, I figured out another way that would satisfy the law (I never ever said I was a saint, judge said go to AA or go to jail) and keep me out the normal world. I can't tell you how many years sober I have, I don't keep track. Doesn't matter to me, but I think 23 years is tremendous. Actually more then surprised that this little spot of heaven dosen't have more problems with alcohol/drugs. I'm thinking it may have something to do with the creative level of this place, the energy, the ability to adopt. I think some of what we went through may have a little bit to do with the era we grew up in.

I think your story about Mesa Verde is really hilarious. I'm trying, and not to hard, to not get to caught up in talking about about my obsession with prehistory. However anytime you care to go into for hours, I'm up for it. Ahh yes, the 50's. I didn't have to go through the spanking thing, but they kept a harness on me for a while. Seems strange to look at old pictures and see the harness. That would be like a leash only around the torso for you younger ones.

Well I'll have fresh muffins and fresh coffee for when you return, my days in the tin mines are over.

PS I wanted The Wife, (she's the degreed Anthro major in the family) to read your Mesa Verde story. Her thought was just how much of that speach you gave to the students doing the dig was really just a "story". I kind of wondered the same thing. But if we go there, we might run the risk of getting another label here, ah I don't care, I have enough labels now to choke a large wooly mammoth.

I am happy to share

Hi, all.

What a crusty, tough-skinned group we Dinos are!

Have been reading everyone's posts. You guys are amazing. You are my inspiration -- and I need it today, so thank you.

I've gotten deafening silence from the Big Important Institution at which I job-interviewed two and a half weeks ago. Was promised I'd hear back a week ago. (Trust me on this one; I know the circumstances and the BIG BOSS, so it's not a case of me jumping to conclusions here. The silence is portentous....)

Anyway, the funny thing is, I'm going to get rejected -- for the SECOND TIME now -- because -- get this -- my personality is TOO EXTROVERTED and FORCEFUL for the heavily Aspie group (likely mostly undiagnosed) with whom I interviewed! Worked for YEARS
to blend in with the NTs and the assertive work world better, and now this. Ahhh, the irony!! !!

So, anyway, I've been wallowing in it (annoyance and disappointment), but I took charge. Wrote the Big Boss there an excellent, eloquent
and professional note cutting them off at the pass. Will press SEND shortly.

Have to laugh or we'd cry, eh? Thanks for letting me pony up to the cafe counter and whine a bit.

It's all good, and we Dinos know how to persevere.

DD

Hi DD. I think it's exactly what you deserve! Gosh... forceful... extrovert... no way can you be those and AS! You're some sort of 5th columnist... admit it.

Whereas, me. I've just come back from my monthly Aspergers Social group meeting, where I monopolised the auditory medium. In fact, I've been talking to (at?) people from 11 am this morning until 10.30 this evening (with a 1/2 hour break for lunch). So I'm definitely acceptable as AS (or even SA).

A funny day. Sorry to PP and SB, but I'm this instant making my way through a bottle of wine. I intend to drink it all. Muscadet Sevre et Maine, whatever that is. A slightly inappropriate Christmas present. The first drink at home in a year. After the three pints of Ruddles County earlier on. It took a solid ten minutes of struggling to get the cork out. I deserve it. I will sleep (pass out).

More soon... (hic?)

I can see I'll have to bake some more. You lost out to aylisssa, who arrived a bit late (but had some tasty spam sushi that I couldn't resist).

(This winme is getting thrfough. I thinkn i might not ne here all theat much longer)

Thanks, Lau.

I've got on a big smile: Yes, that's me, a regular 'ole fifth column.

Would that I were so clever and strategic...oh wait, I AM!

DD

PostPaleo sez:
Ahh yes, the 50's. I didn't have to go through the spanking thing, but they kept a harness on me for a while. Seems strange to look at old pictures and see the harness.

SinsBoldly replys:
oh, yes! I had two harnesses, I outgrew the first. They were both leather and looks just like they have for dogs, running two straps around the body, with a big D ring in the back where they put the leash.(and one horrible horrible horrible horrible strap through the legs.) The bigger I grew the tighter they became, working to the ends of their buckles and finally the crotch one popped. I still hear my mother screaming "And I will not pay for another one!" and even in my youth and autism I though "oh, thank god!"

Mrs Post Paleo opined:
Her thought was just how much of that speach you gave to the students doing the dig was really just a "story".

SinsBoldly states firmly:
Oh, no, no 'story' I was in my 'zone' as my dad called it and I was feeling the energy in the pit, it was right next to where they excavated "Esther" (which I always thought was funny, since it is a Hebrew era name). I can feel stuff like that, with inantimate objects.

Merle

[quote=Mozart
i am single - terminally i suspect
i am 38
i am female
i am grey, white and the few other natural original browns
i am ozzie
i am AS....suspected for years, diagnosed for months
i am an individual[/quote]

Hello to you both!
Welcome to the Cafe and the back room pub we call the "Spam and Kipper!"
I am single but haven't been all my life
I am 56
I am female
I am grey except for a darkish brownish streak down the middle of my head (think Jay Leno)
I am a Yank
I am AS, just heard about it and self diagnosed last Oct. (concurrently!)
I am several people in one body (more on that later) a(nd NO, not schitzophrenic)
Merle

oh ,Lau!
Don't worry about drinking what we call here in the States "old Musky" (Muscadet Sevre et Maine,) grewwwwwschst! makes me shivver and wretch just to think of it!

well, not to worry about your drinking or drinking stories, any of you, I am not going to be stressed nor barge out into the night trying to find a bottle.
And Lau, just think how much more this is for you!
LOL
Merle

Mrs Post Paleo ? Naw I call her "The Wife". While it might look a little cold hearted, the word Wife means a lot to me. I coined her nic name (she's 62 by the way, she robbed the cradle ). I'm still amazed she's hanging around, not always happy, well niether am I, so we make for a good match. Kidding we get on very well. Anyhoo, the nic I gave her is SwampBlossom. She stepped into my little bog and she shines like a bloom in the night. Yes there really are pretty things, shiny things in the "swamp" you just have to quit swatting the sqeeters long enough to look.

I think they finally stopped with the harness thing when I figured out how to undo the buckles or whatever they were. Leather? I like leather straps on...err, can't go there.

SwampBlossom.

I love it. Gorgeous and fitting on many levels. Does she have a nic for you?

DD

Lol, she says it's Baby Cakes. It isn't what I seem to hear most. Can't use those words here.