The Dino-Aspie Cafe (for Those 40+... or feeling creaky)

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If we could just slip the surly bonds of our bodies we wouldn't have to worry about the water, though.

wistful for the spirit,
Merle

I'm game. You set it up for me, or me up for it...

You can slip the surly bonds of my body anytime you like, Merle.

OK. I've lowered my tone to that of the gutter-snipes around here. Now you'll have to watch out, there's an id about. I read the threads in the adult section. I thought they were rather innocent. Group reading and acting out of the Marquis de Sade is much more fun.

ah, the Marquis,
a talented amateur

Merle

and thanks for noticing my name is Merle.
Chuck has got me right. I am integrating myself into one persona (for now)
We will just have to see how it goes.

One of my personas was pretty wild, I must admit. However it's that not being able to compare what is wild and what is simply imagination. Not having any INTERNAL imagination I always have to play it out on the physical plane.
(Which is rather hard on that physical body)

I don't know what it is today, I feel really disconnected in my head. But I am getting a lot of housework done, the place smells of spring coming through the windows and ammonia.
I am eternally grateful for this spot and I wonder how The Yowler is doing.
Merle

At a guess, I would imagine the eviction happened, and she's got a lot to sort out before she'll have time to fritter away on here.

I said it that way on purpose, to belittle the comforting effect this place has.

I don't mean it at all.

I'll not go back to edit this.

That is one of the reasons this medium seems to work so well. You can always go back and reword, rephrase, delete.

Just for a change, I thought I'd attempt to use it in the same fashion as I communicate face-to-face.

Slow. Make little sense. Say things then realise they haven't come out quite the way I intended. Wonder what on earth the other person is making of it all. Another pause. Back to the start.

Best wishes to the Cat, wherever she's making her noises.

humm. .. I don't disagree with your actual premise of we being reincarnated, however I am wondering about the 'successful' part.

I am just taking it pretty hard today. Here I thought I was handling all this pretty well. (all this means learing I have AS and probably DID) Ok, I have always been pretty wonky, ok, so I have always been sorta out there for most people. But I had NO idea how I looked to other people. None. I think I am embarassed. How often have I forced myself on other people not picking up on the fact that they were embaressed FOR me or perhaps feeling sorry for me. I DO realize it is because they didn't understand how my mind works or the thoughts I had/have were perhaps too complex for them to follow. It doesn't make you wrong because you are 'smart' but it does and can widen the gap between who can put up with your bull**** and who wants to get on with their own lives.

learning how to get this all out, and feeling comfortable to type it in this, our little cafe.

Merle

So.. wandering again... I perused your blog Merle. Does the good doctor Abraham Maslow give any hints as to what comes after the five "needs" he mentioned? I think I had covered them to 100% each by the time I was 30.
On the pyramid on the Wikipedia page, there's no indigo or violet.

I propose that "Increasing the sum total of human knowledge/awareness" should probably be part of the indigo trapezium (I'm not 100% on that, maybe, but I've done a bit of it. E.g. OEIS). "Ascension" probably goes in the violet triangle, at the top. (I'm working on this) That comes just before the reversed triangle, ultraviolet, containing something we don't have the capability to understand, yet.

I'll think about it while I watch Alien vs Predator.

I am also a Dino-Aspie, self-diagnosed (I have a degree in psychology should that make my self-diagnosis official? LOL) I am a female, 45, and fairly new here at WP.

I live in Europe, have lived in the USA and can understand both dialects of English hehehe!

I am happy to see that there many Dino-Aspies here. Like manyof you I also have additional health issues (cq heart surgery and a genetic neuromuscular disorder similar to MS).

As a child my parents thought I was a bad apple because I never seem to give them the love and attaentio that they felt they deserve for all the material things they offered me. They tried to correct that by abusing me physiclaly, mentally and emotionally. I left home at 17 and never went back.

Managed to hold several jobs and get a degree in psychology and sociology. I have never married, have no kids and due t my other illnesses have als no job and by now also no friends. It's a lonely life but it's less painful than trying to establih and maintain useless friendships.

Star

Welcome, Star
pull up a chair, have a muffin or some kippers, Lau has a little pub in the back and can probably get you a drink if you like.
I am a bit out of it today, but I project onto everyone I know the need for hospitality and the offereing of warmth and companionship and wanted to welcome you and your comments into our little place we have carved out of the world.

Merle

thanks, I updated it today with something I have been working on about mental stimming.
I was wondering if things like obsessing and compulsing was just mental stimming...

Merle

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I am not over 40, but I will be in 17 years, and I think my memory is already fading.

I couldn't resist having a quick look... "HOW YOU CAN TALK WITH GOD" by Paramahansa Yogananda at $8.00 seems fairly cheap, except I'm trying to cut down on talking to myself. Resting my arms seems well catered for.

Seriously - I was quite into TM for a bit. Have a couple of friends who went "all the way". Most odd.

I suppose I've dabbled in everything. Learned some Sanskrit, even. At the end of the day, science always seems the better bet (which I don't do - gamble, that is). What most people find hard to grasp is that science doesn't say that any of the "paranormal", "pseudo-science" thingummies do not happen. It just says "show me". I've tested a lot of it (on myself), and found the results... inconclusive?

However, I still like the idea (I think it was Colin Wilson's) that part of the functionality of the paranormal was to actively try to conceal/obscure/disprove itself.

PS. Alien vs Predator was just as irritating as when last I watched it. Stupid comments like "I've worked it out. The Aztecs used base ten. The walls reconfigure every 10 minutes" along with "Wow! And today is the 10th of October!" Duh? Why should 12th of 12th of a day be related to them using base ten? What has the tenth day of our tenth month got to do with their calendar of 18 twenty day months and a bit left over? And in fact they presumably used the same as the Mayans: base twenty, anyway!

Welcome, Your Grace (is that the correct term of address, werbert?). We had some questions, a while back, that under-age visitors needed to answer, to remain in our "good books". No one but me answered them anyway. We're not that fussy.

Oh, and Merle, your blog is bigger and better than my blog, so there. And I've never done one before. And I keep thinking of adding a whole mess of stuff. And I don't. But I might. One day. In the future. Sometime. Not tonight. Don't hold your breath.

Chuck, who's been into the beer, steps onto the stage under the spot, takes the mike, taps it like an amateur, causing feedback, and makes a cafe announcement:

*Ahem!*

First off, welcome Star! Welcome Werbert! Please settle in and make yourselves comfortable.

Wow! You all give me so much to think about! About a week ago I thought, "with so many creative and intelligent minds here at WP we could be a potent force if we'd stand together." Then I remembered Merle's light bulb answer, so, oh, right, like we'd ever stand together! As Inventor pointed out on the cafe's debut, our strength is our individuality, that we won't be herded (except like cats). But we are a potent force on this planet, albeit behind the scenes (as in the computer work that Lau does). And although I won't be made to follow any of you, nor you me, I most certainly am, in many positive ways, being influenced by ALL of you. And I'm very appreciative of this.

So,... I wake up today and begin reading Inventor's latest comments. What a wonderful mind this man has - it just amazes me! I so often find myself and my thoughts inside his comments, but he always writes so much better than I could ever hope to, he frames the ideas so much more clearly and so well - he inspires me to shake the dust off my brain and try harder. Thank you Investor!

And I've been thinking ... I love how Prof_Pretorius playfully pops in to skewer people - to give the place a sense of balance and levity and to remind me to lighten up. Thanks professor!

I go on to read Lau's thoughts - always original and entertaining - and in just a few words he's got me dreaming of starting an un-terraformed planet with more compatible hours and plenty of water. His constant research and carefully selected words (Wow! what vocabulary! What sparks of genius!) remind me of how lazy I've allowed myself to become. I'm a strange mix of intelligent-yet-stupid, and my stupid yells so loud you can't hear my . I hate laying my thoughts down anywhere near his - mine so dull by comparison. Yet, if I were rich I'd pay big bucks just to spend a week with him in a pub to hear his thoughts. I see that he writes that he is going to start just putting his thoughts "out there", raw and unedited, as in face to face conversation. I have never been that brave! I used to be an expert in booby traps, mines and demolitions in the Marine Corps, but I'm always editing my thoughts and words before saying them or writing them, and always wear my NT mask in public. Lau, I applaud you in this endeavor! But I also see that you write that Yowler has a lot to sort out "before she'll have time to fritter away on here. I said it that way on purpose, to belittle the comforting effect this place has." You go on to say more, but that line made me pause and think. And I knew that I had to tell you how much I appreciate your frittering away time here, because at least in my case you helped me wake up. In a way that works even better than a kick in the backside. It's ok to have this place of comfort, this little cafe oasis. And in ways you may not have been aware of, you haven't been wasting your time. Although I ought to say it everyday, to prevent my never having had said it, which would be a crime thank you Lau! for inspiring me to do better!

And I read in elegant prose and poems the thoughts and struggles and dreams of Merle. Of living in tents, of coming to grips with life. Please never be embarrassed of anything you've ever done! Would that I had always been so spontaneous and honest! None of it can be changed, and thank goodness, for look at the wonderful person you've become!! !
I went through the first three-quarters of my life clueless, like Forrest Gump, and although I'm 48 years old, I'm mentally and socially where I ought to have been at age 18. But I can't do life over either. I have to go forward as the new and improved, but old and creaky Forrest Gump! Fortunately, as an assist, I now carry your words and wit, so expertly weaved, and have them to look forward to whenever I revisit WP!

And the lesson of forbearance that I learned from YowlingCat. Happily, invitingly, she started this cafe, her troubles unknown to us all. Like an old hickory which regards warm sunlight and heavy ice with the same indifference, bearing fortunes good and bad, Yowler showed her true nature and remains true to her inner self. Merle's occasionally attached poem applies to her, and to many of this cafe's regulars, well.

I'm learning from you all and all of your metaphors and conversations. Guess I've successfully reincarnated as well. This place is so wonderful because all of you are in it.

And although as Aspies this is going to be hard for you to hear: I'm glad we were brought by fate into this cafe together... because I really LIKE you. Heck, erm... even LOVE you. Well, in an Aspie non-hand holding sort of way...and I sense that its mutual...I think....

[at this point, Chuck would be teary eyed (except he hasn't learned how to cry yet)].

Anyhoo, please let this serve as my thank you to all. Kippers and beer for everyone!

[Chuck now passes out, having drunk half a beer, or at least two sips, which may actually have been a Shirley Temple].

(Lupine sidles in. Rosy the Pink Tarantula stands on Lupine's shoulder and waves her pedipalps in excitement. Saturday night at the Cafe!)

Hiya Merle et al. I too have spent some time in the past few weeks considering how I may have affected people in my past, all the while remaining clueless as to how my behavior impacts those around me. This is such a sorry topic for me; I think I need to move on and try to be "better" with folks in my present and future life...

Lau,
I keep a blank sheet in either Word or my operating system's word pad program open behind my browser window. This way I can hit the fourm box like this, or copy from the word pad. The best thing about typing it out there is I can spell check immediately and also keep more 'signature lines' just waiting to be cut and pasted..

As for Paramahansa Yogananda, I knew his son. Son of a Mormon lady that followed him to Los Angeles when he opened his temple. Big beautiful broad browed fellow they call Ben, lived out in the rugged Siskiyous Mountians of Southern Oregon, in the Pacific Northwest States with his Mormon wife, Lorna. Married in the Temple in Salt Lake City, they were, married for all eternity. Lorna was desparate to get into heaven and the only way a Mormon woman can is through her husband, so she was clinging to him even if he WAS half an Indian Yogi.

Its part of a synchronisity, haven't you felt the pull when you know to be somewhere at some time and then you are blown away because you realize that little art and music show is actually Woodstock*. Has it happened to you? cause that is exactly how it happened to ME!

Merle

* 1969, Bethel, New York, USA historical art and music fair

Oh, and Lau - I didn't write the stuff about Abraham Maslow. I took it from my blog. It was one of those www.similarminds.com quickie personality tests. I read it over, and if you thought _I_ wrote it, I am flattered!

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I don't remember making a post in this thread.