How would you want "help?"
Alot of people have stories of psychologist etc. not helping you so what help would you want? How do you view what would help you etc.? I have some views for myself.
1) Lets say you are fired from your job as a teacher. Oh I'll just go teach at another school no biggie but IMO IT IS A BIG DEAL YOU WERE FIRED FROM YOUR JOB WHAT IF YOU GET FIRED FROM YOUR NEW JOB AT ANOTHER SCHOOL HUH HUH?! !! !! !! !! !! !! So how do we help you NOT GET FIRED. Here are a couple methods.
1A) I a Psychologist sit in your classroom and analyze your behavior (This is done in secret think food inspector which would=your restraunt being 100% spotless so basically your behavior would be squeaky clean and analyzing you would be pointless. After doing this I call you in for a session and we discuss your behavior and how to work on it/fix it.
1B) Paint a behavior picture as in talk to your old boss/every family member (kids/parents/spouse,coworkers etc.) to get THERE opinion of your behavior faults then talk to you about YOUR view of there opinion of you then create a solution from there. Now what if you deny family etc. view of you well IMO YOU WERE FIRED FROM YOUR JOB WHICH IS AN ISSUE! So whether you agree with the family views etc. or not IF YOU DO NOT CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR WAYS YOU WILL BE FIRED AGAIN NOW DO YOU WANT MY HELP OR NOT LEAVE IF YOU WANT I DON'T CARE! (Then agreeing your behavior is an issue I help you fix/change your behavior so you don't get fired) (Bad behavior such as getting fired/kicked out of College is no different IMO than a killer/sex offender they are known to strike again! BAD BEHAVIOR IS NO DIFFERENT no matter what form it takes IMO!
2A) Redirect behavior: Your child is coloring on a wall. You yell get mad etc. IMO how about redirecting there behavior instead of yelling etc. ask WHY they are doing that and how about letting them only color on there playroom wall or paint there room with chalkboard paint (My Psychology teacher started discussing this behavior technique in class. Which IMO is workable more on a child level than an adult level but IMO could work for me. For example instead of questioning the teacher 24/7 having teacher interaction behavior maybe I can develop friendships/meet others maybe Aspies who are as interested in learning as I am and use the teacher less and less since I'd have other activities to occupy my time and mind. and no grabbing a bite to eat in the cafeteria WHEN I'M NOT HUNGRY or playing my DS DO NOT COUNT! It'd have to be something I'd want and it'd have to be a DEEP WANT AKA I rather go with boyfriend/friend than chat the teacher up (which is highly highly highly unlikely so the "redirect method MIGHT not work for me LOL!)
Do you like my ideas? Do you have any of your own? The most help I've gotten is "be yourself/oh you're depressed take another pill.
Oh and the behavior picture Ya doesn't work well when the 2nd party is in the ROOM WITH ME! (then mom gets home OMG you feel that way yell yell cuss cuss etc. Ya that makes me feel swell! ![]()
It's hard for me to know whether your ideas for dealing with getting fired would work or not - I've not had that particular problem, and if I did, I'd probably just feel it was the employer's fault. Your other idea of redirecting behaviour - that's been known to work.....I used to use it on my son sometimes.
What I'd really like is this: you know those spy films where they "wire" somebody with a video camera, an earpiece and a microphone, and send them to engage with a criminal, so that a third party can see what they see and advise without the criminal knowing what's going on? Well I'd like to be wired like that in difficult social situations, with a top-rate sociologist at the other end to guide me when I don't know what to do.
Two kinds of help. The simple / practical: I have a flat tire on my first bike and my father teaches me to fix a flat. Or I am totally stucj in a strange town in a strangte country and a stranger gives me a room overnight and an extremely good meal. And so forth. I VERY much appreciate all of that, including my wife making the phine calls I can't [in return for my making the cals she can't].
But the other kind is deeper and goes further. Very rarely [a small small group] someone listens and at least hald understands what goes on. If I am not being hassled and stared at [what part of Mars do you come from?] I can often make the next jump myself.
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1) Lets say you are fired from your job as a teacher. Oh I'll just go teach at another school no biggie but IMO IT IS A BIG DEAL YOU WERE FIRED FROM YOUR JOB WHAT IF YOU GET FIRED FROM YOUR NEW JOB AT ANOTHER SCHOOL HUH HUH?! !! !! !! !! !! !! So how do we help you NOT GET FIRED. Here are a couple methods.
1A) I a Psychologist sit in your classroom and analyze your behavior (This is done in secret think food inspector which would=your restraunt being 100% spotless so basically your behavior would be squeaky clean and analyzing you would be pointless. After doing this I call you in for a session and we discuss your behavior and how to work on it/fix it.
1B) Paint a behavior picture as in talk to your old boss/every family member (kids/parents/spouse,coworkers etc.) to get THERE opinion of your behavior faults then talk to you about YOUR view of there opinion of you then create a solution from there. Now what if you deny family etc. view of you well IMO YOU WERE FIRED FROM YOUR JOB WHICH IS AN ISSUE! So whether you agree with the family views etc. or not IF YOU DO NOT CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOR WAYS YOU WILL BE FIRED AGAIN NOW DO YOU WANT MY HELP OR NOT LEAVE IF YOU WANT I DON'T CARE! (Then agreeing your behavior is an issue I help you fix/change your behavior so you don't get fired) (Bad behavior such as getting fired/kicked out of College is no different IMO than a killer/sex offender they are known to strike again! BAD BEHAVIOR IS NO DIFFERENT no matter what form it takes IMO!
2A) Redirect behavior: Your child is coloring on a wall. You yell get mad etc. IMO how about redirecting there behavior instead of yelling etc. ask WHY they are doing that and how about letting them only color on there playroom wall or paint there room with chalkboard paint (My Psychology teacher started discussing this behavior technique in class. Which IMO is workable more on a child level than an adult level but IMO could work for me. For example instead of questioning the teacher 24/7 having teacher interaction behavior maybe I can develop friendships/meet others maybe Aspies who are as interested in learning as I am and use the teacher less and less since I'd have other activities to occupy my time and mind. and no grabbing a bite to eat in the cafeteria WHEN I'M NOT HUNGRY or playing my DS DO NOT COUNT! It'd have to be something I'd want and it'd have to be a DEEP WANT AKA I rather go with boyfriend/friend than chat the teacher up (which is highly highly highly unlikely so the "redirect method MIGHT not work for me LOL!)
Do you like my ideas? Do you have any of your own? The most help I've gotten is "be yourself/oh you're depressed take another pill.
Aren't there a series of meetings to discuss what may/may not of happened anyway before a teacher gets fired? Seems like there is in the US. I might be wrong.
I had a friend who was a 3rd grade teacher for 12 years and one day one of her students spit right in her face and she slapped him across his face. She almost got fired over that. She never had any problems before. I believe she had to see a mental health care professional and had a number of meetings. She told me she was shocked and reacted without thinking and she did feel awful to have done that. It made her question herself in so many ways. She stayed on as a teacher and I heard thru another friend she hasn't had any problems since.
