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10 Jun 2020, 6:04 am

What are your thoughts on this young lady’s comments?

Have a listen to when you have a few minutes free or better still 15 minutes to spare ..

https://www.facebook.com/realCandaceOwe ... 870461345/



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10 Jun 2020, 7:07 am

I think her accent is absolutely wonderful.

Also, her decision to wait, research, and make a plan and a decent ideal before she goes to the internet is admirable. No need for me to re-iterate her points. They're right there on the video and she is talking clearly enough for people to understand if they don't go into it with a preconceived notion to defend.

There are points in this video that I have never heard anywhere. Glad to hear someone pointing out the flaws in black culture as well as the many wonderful parts.

A good look at the comment section, with all the hate she is getting, explains exactly why a lot of white southerners don't like Negros. It's not the color. It's the culture. Everything coming from her black commentators insulting her as a house slave or Uncle Tom, saying she never lived in "the hood" and that it doesn't matter what she says because she goes against the hood narrative, is only serving to prove her points.

I think I like her talk.


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10 Jun 2020, 6:31 pm

I hope she is not harmed or killled for what she said.


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10 Jun 2020, 10:29 pm

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I hope she is not harmed or killled for what she said.


Same; the crab bucket mentality is strong. She's getting a bunch of racist insults thrown at her for having straightened hair, of all things--and it's coming from (no surprise here!) black ghetto-dweller people whose identity is built on an us-against-them mentality.

I wish everyone, agree with her or not, could be that relaxed even when talking about things that are seriously upsetting.


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11 Jun 2020, 2:09 am

Candace Owens - Wikipedia

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Candace Amber Owens Farmer (born April 29, 1989) is an American conservative commentator and political activist.She is known for her pro-Trump activism that began around 2016 after being initially very critical of Trump and the Republican Party, and for her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party. She worked for the conservative advocacy group Turning Point USA between 2017 and 2019 as their communications director.

Early career
Degree180 and anti-conservative blog
In 2015, Owens was CEO of Degree180, a marketing agency that offered consultation, production, and planning services. The website included a blog which frequently posted anti-conservative and anti-Trump content, including mockery of his penis size.] In a 2015 column that Owens wrote for the site, she criticized conservative Republicans, writing about the "bat-shit-crazy antics of the Republican Tea Party", adding, "The good news is, they will eventually die off (peacefully in their sleep, we hope), and then we can get right on with the OBVIOUS social change that needs to happen, IMMEDIATELY."]
Privacy violation, Gamergate, and political transformation

Owens launched SocialAutopsy.com in 2016, a website she said would expose bullies on the Internet by tracking their digital footprint. The site would have solicited users to take screenshots of offensive posts and send them to the website, where they would be categorized by the user's name.[ She used crowdfunding on Kickstarter for the website.

The proposal was immediately controversial, drawing criticism that Owens was de-anonymizing (doxing) Internet users and violating their privacy. According to The Daily Dot, "People from all sides of the anti-harassment debate were quick to criticize the database, calling it a public shaming list that would encourage doxing and retaliatory harassment." Both conservatives and progressives involved in the Gamergate controversy condemned the website.

In response, people began posting Owens' private details online. Owens blamed, with scant evidence, the doxing on progressives involved in the Gamergate controversy. After this, she earned the support of conservatives involved in the Gamergate controversy, including right-wing political commentators and Trump supporters Milo Yiannopoulos and Mike Cernovich.[2] After this, Owens became a conservative, saying in 2017, "I became a conservative overnight ... I realized that liberals were actually the racists. Liberals were actually the trolls ... Social Autopsy is why I'm conservative".

Kickstarter suspended funding for Social Autopsy, and the website was never created

Conservative activism
Owens speaks at the White House in 2019
By 2017, Owens had become known in conservative circles for her pro-Trump commentary, and for criticizing liberal rhetoric regarding structural racism, systemic inequality, and identity politics. In 2017, she began posting politically themed videos to YouTube. In September 2017, she launched Red Pill Black, a website and YouTube channel that promotes black conservatism in the United States.

On November 21, 2017, at the MAGA Rally and Expo in Rockford, Illinois, Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk announced that Owens had been hired as the organization's director of urban engagement. Turning Point's hiring of Owens occurred in the wake of allegations of racism at Turning Point. In May 2019, Owens announced her departure as Communications Director for the organization.

In April 2018, Kanye West tweeted "I love the way Candace Owens thinks." The tweet was met with derision among some of West's fans. In May 2018, President Donald Trump said that Owens "is having a big impact on politics in our country. She represents an ever-expanding group of very smart 'thinkers,' and it is wonderful to watch and hear the dialogue going on... so good for our Country!"

Owens has appeared on fringe conspiracy websites, such as InfoWars. In 2018, she was a guest host on Fox News.[2] After finding mainstream success, Owens distanced herself from the far-right conspiracy websites, although she refused to criticize InfoWars or its hosts.

In May 2018, Owens suggested that "something bio-chemically happens" to women who do not marry or have children, and she linked to the Twitter handles of Sarah Silverman, Chelsea Handler, and Kathy Griffin, saying that they were "evidentiary support" of this theory.[ Silverman responded: "It seems to me that by tweeting this, you would like to maybe make us feel badly. I'd say this is evidenced by ur effort to use our twitter handles so we would see. My heart breaks for you, Candy. I hope you find happiness in whatever form that takes."] Owens responded, accusing Silverman of supporting terrorists and crime gangs.

Owens hosts The Candace Owens Show on PragerU's YouTube channel.

In April 2020, Owens announced her intention to either run for office in the U.S. Senate or to be a governor, and that she would only run against an incumbent Democrat, not a Republican. She did not reveal which specific office she would run for, or in which election cycle.

Blexit movement
In October 2018, Owens and the Donald Trump presidential campaign launched the Blexit movement, a social media campaign to encourage African Americans to abandon the Democratic Party and register as Republicans. The term Blexit—a portmanteau of ’Black’ and ’exit’—mimics Brexit, the word used to describe the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union. On the launch, Owens said that her "dear friend and fellow superhero Kanye West" designed merchandise for the movement, but the following day, West denied being the designer and disavowed the effort, saying "I never wanted any association with Blexit" and "I've been used to spread messages I don't believe in." Shortly after the launch, The Daily Beast found that approximately 16 percent of the total tweets using the #blexit hashtag were from Twitter accounts associated with the promotion of Russian disinformation.

Political views
Ideology
Owens said she had no interest in politics whatsoever before 2015, but previously identified as liberal. In 2017, she began describing herself as a conservative Trump supporter. Owens has since characterized Trump as the "savior" of Western civilization. She has argued that Trump has neither engaged in rhetoric that is harmful to African Americans, nor proposed policies that would harm African Americans. She said in October 2018 that she had never voted and had only recently become a registered Republican.

The Guardian has described Owens as "ultra-conservative", and New York magazine and the Columbia Journalism Review have described her as "right-wing". The Daily Beast has called her views "far-right" and the Pacific Standard called her a member of the "alt-right", though she has rejected both terms. She was influenced by the works of Ann Coulter, Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Carson, and Thomas Sowell.

Owens has said: "The left hates America, and Trump loves it."] She has said that the left is "destroying everything through this cultural Marxist ideology." In late March 2020, Owen argued that the United States was suffering from a "doomsday cult" of liberal paranoia.

Race relations
Owens is known for her criticism of the Black Lives Matter movement and has described Black Lives Matter protesters as "a bunch of whiny toddlers, pretending to be oppressed for attention". Owens has argued that African Americans have a "victim mentality," often referring to the Democratic Party as a "plantation".] She has argued that the American left "like black people to be government-dependent" and that black people have been brainwashed to vote for Democrats. She has argued that police violence against black people is not about racism, and referred to police killings of black people as a trivial matter to African Americans. She has characterized abortion as a tool for the "extermination" of black babies.

She has said, "Black Americans are doing worse off economically today than we were doing in the 1950s under Jim Crow," adding that this is because "we've only been voting for one party since then." She has attributed economic improvements for African Americans, such as a low unemployment rate, to Trump's presidency.

When asked if it was problematic that white supremacist groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan, support Trump, Owens answered that Antifa was more prevalent than the KKK. Owens has said that the media cover the KKK during Trump's presidency to hurt him. In a 2019 hearing on hate crimes, Owens referred to the KKK as a "Democrat terrorist organization". After the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, Owens said that concern over rising white nationalism was "stupid". In 2018, Owens dismissed reports of a resurgence in hate crimes, saying "All of the violence this year primarily happened because of people on the left."

On Facebook, Owens wrote "I proudly self-identify as an Uncle Tom."

Owens in 2019
During her April 2019 testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on the rise of hate crimes and white supremacists in the United States, Owens made the claim that the Southern Strategy employed by the Republican party to boost its appeal to racist voters was a "myth" that "never happened". This was disputed by several historians who said that the existence of the Southern Strategy was well documented in contemporaneous sources dating back to the Civil Rights era, with historian Kevin M. Kruse, who writes about modern conservatism, calling Owens's statement "utter nonsense".

In June 2019, Owens said that African Americans had it better in the first 100 years after the abolition of slavery than they have since] and that socialism was at fault.

Women's rights
Owens opposes abortion. She has called abortion a tool for the "extermination of black babies".

Owens is critical of feminism. Owens described the #MeToo movement – an international movement against sexual harassment and assault – as "stupid" and said that she "hated" it. Owens wrote that the movement was premised on the idea that "women are stupid, weak & inconsequential".

LGBT rights
Owens supports same-sex marriage. On July 28, 2017, Owens came out in favor of banning transgender individuals who are undergoing sex reassignment surgery from serving in the United States military, but said that she is fine with fully transitioned transgender individuals serving in the United States military.

Welfare
Owens opposes welfare, although she says that she has family who use it.

Gun rights
Owens is a registered member of the National Rifle Association (NRA). She has said that the NRA was founded as a civil rights organization that trained African Americans to arm themselves. To the contrary, Politifact has shown that the NRA was founded by Union Civil War veterans to improve soldiers' marksmanship.

Muslim immigration
In 2018, Owens warned that "Europe will fall and become a Muslim majority continent by 2050," and "There has never been a Muslim majority country where sharia law was not implemented." She suggested that the United States would then be "forced to save" the British.

Controversies
Dispute with Mollie Tibbetts' family
In August 2018, Owens had a dispute with a cousin of Mollie Tibbetts. Tibbetts was murdered, allegedly by Cristhian Bahena Rivera, a 24 year old Mexican undocumented immigrant. Tibbetts' cousin said that Owens had exploited Tibbetts' death for "political propaganda". Owens responded, describing the cousin's criticism as a "strange" attack on Trump supporters. Later that month the University of Iowa chapter of Turning Point USA criticized Owens for "public harassment" towards a member of Tibbetts' family.

Comments on 2018 mail bombing attempts

In October 2018, during the mail bombing attempts targeting prominent Democrats, Owens took to Twitter to promote the conspiracy theory that the mailings were sent by leftists. After authorities on October 26 arrested a 56-year-old suspect who was a registered Republican and Trump supporter, Owens deleted her tweet without explanation.

Comments about Hitler
At the launch of the British offshoot Turning Point UK in December 2018, in response to an audience member who asked for a "long-term prognosis" about the terms "globalism" and "nationalism", Owens said:

I actually don't have any problems at all with the word "nationalism". I think that the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I don't want. Whenever we say "nationalism" the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. You know, [Hitler] was a national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. The problem is that he wanted—he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German. Everybody to look a different way. That's not, to me, that's not nationalism.

Following heavy criticism for her comments, Owens clarified them on Twitter and in a Judiciary Committee hearing in the US House of Representatives in February 2019. Owens said that "[Hitler] was a homicidal, psychopathic, maniac that killed his own people" and "[Hitler was not a Nationalist, he] murdered his own people, a nationalist would not kill their own people". That the point of her comments was to say that there is "no excuse or defense ever for... everything that [Hitler] did". She also said that her comments were about Hitler's crimes against Jews.

Owens' comments about Hitler were played in April 2019 by Representative Ted Lieu during testimony in front of the House Judiciary Committee about the issue of increasing hate crimes and white supremacy in America. Lieu said that he did not know Owens and was just going to let her own words characterize her, before playing the audio clip. Owens responded that Lieu had deliberately omitted an interviewer's question that provided critical context to her words, with the intent of misrepresenting them as an endorsement of Hitler, to smear her reputation.

Donald Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. praised Owens on Twitter for "call(ing) out the Dems on their purposeful manipulation of facts for their narrative".

Mention in Christchurch shooter's 'manifesto'
The terrorist who committed the Christchurch mosque shootings produced a 'manifesto' in which he wrote that Owens had "influenced him above all". According to journalist Robert Evans, it was "possible, even likely" that the shooter was a fan of Owens, considering her rhetoric against Muslim immigrants, but in context the terrorist's references to her may have been an example of "shitposting" intended to provoke political conflict.

Hours after the shootings, Owens posted a tweet in reaction to allegations that she inspired the mass murder, saying that she never created any content espousing her views on the 2nd Amendment (to the United States Constitution) or Islam. Her tweet was criticized[by whom?] for appearing glib, and it was reported that she actually had posted tweets about the 2nd Amendment and Islam. She later made formal statements rejecting any connection to the shooter.

George Floyd protests
In June 2020, she falsely claimed that George Soros paid people to protest the killing of George Floyd.Shortly afterwards, she argued that George Floyd, who was killed by a police officer who knelt on his neck for almost nine minutes, "was not a good person. I don't care who wants to spin that." She said, "The fact that he has been held up as a martyr sickens me." President Trump retweeted Owens's remarks about Floyd.


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12 Jun 2020, 1:57 pm

Her views on nationalism are pretty creepy and I don't support her ideas on same-sex marriage either. I agree with some of her thoughts on this alternative view of stamping out racism (anything to help stamp out racism as long as we don't fall into the trap of the ends justifying the means.)

Owens is another fascinating public figure in this time of many wild and different views from all over. You don't have to support her 100% to think that she had some interesting points in that video.


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15 Jun 2020, 1:36 am

Borromeo wrote:
Her views on nationalism are pretty creepy and I don't support her ideas on same-sex marriage either. I agree with some of her thoughts on this alternative view of stamping out racism (anything to help stamp out racism as long as we don't fall into the trap of the ends justifying the means.)

Owens is another fascinating public figure in this time of many wild and different views from all over. You don't have to support her 100% to think that she had some interesting points in that video.



Yes you make some interesting point in that last sentence



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15 Jun 2020, 1:51 am

The thing is , as useful as Wiki is , it is far from perfect .. you only have to search it for one of your favourite interests .. pop star , actor or whatever to realise that it’s full of flaws .

I only checked the last paragraph on her when she said that he was a bad person - well sadly he was .

Now I know the guy was totally wrong to kneel on his neck and he should be jailed of course but moments before he was arrested he’d used a fake bill to pay for cigarettes - then refused to return the cigs after being told it was fake - he was also apparently high on amphetamines and resisted arrest aggressively .

Now he’d been in jail FIVE times so gawd knows how many other offences he’d committed
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Candace Owens - Wikipedia
Quote:
Candace Amber Owens Farmer (born April 29, 1989) is an American conservative commentator and political activist.She is known for her pro-Trump activism that began around 2016 after being initially very critical of Trump and the Republican Party, and for her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party. She worked for the conservative advocacy group Turning Point USA between 2017 and 2019 as their communications director.

Early career
Degree180 and anti-conservative blog
In 2015, Owens was CEO of Degree180, a marketing agency that offered consultation, production, and planning services. The website included a blog which frequently posted anti-conservative and anti-Trump content, including mockery of his penis size.] In a 2015 column that Owens wrote for the site, she criticized conservative Republicans, writing about the "bat-shit-crazy antics of the Republican Tea Party", adding, "The good news is, they will eventually die off (peacefully in their sleep, we hope), and then we can get right on with the OBVIOUS social change that needs to happen, IMMEDIATELY."]
Privacy violation, Gamergate, and political transformation

Owens launched SocialAutopsy.com in 2016, a website she said would expose bullies on the Internet by tracking their digital footprint. The site would have solicited users to take screenshots of offensive posts and send them to the website, where they would be categorized by the user's name.[ She used crowdfunding on Kickstarter for the website.

The proposal was immediately controversial, drawing criticism that Owens was de-anonymizing (doxing) Internet users and violating their privacy. According to The Daily Dot, "People from all sides of the anti-harassment debate were quick to criticize the database, calling it a public shaming list that would encourage doxing and retaliatory harassment." Both conservatives and progressives involved in the Gamergate controversy condemned the website.

In response, people began posting Owens' private details online. Owens blamed, with scant evidence, the doxing on progressives involved in the Gamergate controversy. After this, she earned the support of conservatives involved in the Gamergate controversy, including right-wing political commentators and Trump supporters Milo Yiannopoulos and Mike Cernovich.[2] After this, Owens became a conservative, saying in 2017, "I became a conservative overnight ... I realized that liberals were actually the racists. Liberals were actually the trolls ... Social Autopsy is why I'm conservative".

Kickstarter suspended funding for Social Autopsy, and the website was never created

Conservative activism
Owens speaks at the White House in 2019
By 2017, Owens had become known in conservative circles for her pro-Trump commentary, and for criticizing liberal rhetoric regarding structural racism, systemic inequality, and identity politics. In 2017, she began posting politically themed videos to YouTube. In September 2017, she launched Red Pill Black, a website and YouTube channel that promotes black conservatism in the United States.

On November 21, 2017, at the MAGA Rally and Expo in Rockford, Illinois, Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk announced that Owens had been hired as the organization's director of urban engagement. Turning Point's hiring of Owens occurred in the wake of allegations of racism at Turning Point. In May 2019, Owens announced her departure as Communications Director for the organization.

In April 2018, Kanye West tweeted "I love the way Candace Owens thinks." The tweet was met with derision among some of West's fans. In May 2018, President Donald Trump said that Owens "is having a big impact on politics in our country. She represents an ever-expanding group of very smart 'thinkers,' and it is wonderful to watch and hear the dialogue going on... so good for our Country!"

Owens has appeared on fringe conspiracy websites, such as InfoWars. In 2018, she was a guest host on Fox News.[2] After finding mainstream success, Owens distanced herself from the far-right conspiracy websites, although she refused to criticize InfoWars or its hosts.

In May 2018, Owens suggested that "something bio-chemically happens" to women who do not marry or have children, and she linked to the Twitter handles of Sarah Silverman, Chelsea Handler, and Kathy Griffin, saying that they were "evidentiary support" of this theory.[ Silverman responded: "It seems to me that by tweeting this, you would like to maybe make us feel badly. I'd say this is evidenced by ur effort to use our twitter handles so we would see. My heart breaks for you, Candy. I hope you find happiness in whatever form that takes."] Owens responded, accusing Silverman of supporting terrorists and crime gangs.

Owens hosts The Candace Owens Show on PragerU's YouTube channel.

In April 2020, Owens announced her intention to either run for office in the U.S. Senate or to be a governor, and that she would only run against an incumbent Democrat, not a Republican. She did not reveal which specific office she would run for, or in which election cycle.

Blexit movement
In October 2018, Owens and the Donald Trump presidential campaign launched the Blexit movement, a social media campaign to encourage African Americans to abandon the Democratic Party and register as Republicans. The term Blexit—a portmanteau of ’Black’ and ’exit’—mimics Brexit, the word used to describe the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union. On the launch, Owens said that her "dear friend and fellow superhero Kanye West" designed merchandise for the movement, but the following day, West denied being the designer and disavowed the effort, saying "I never wanted any association with Blexit" and "I've been used to spread messages I don't believe in." Shortly after the launch, The Daily Beast found that approximately 16 percent of the total tweets using the #blexit hashtag were from Twitter accounts associated with the promotion of Russian disinformation.

Political views
Ideology
Owens said she had no interest in politics whatsoever before 2015, but previously identified as liberal. In 2017, she began describing herself as a conservative Trump supporter. Owens has since characterized Trump as the "savior" of Western civilization. She has argued that Trump has neither engaged in rhetoric that is harmful to African Americans, nor proposed policies that would harm African Americans. She said in October 2018 that she had never voted and had only recently become a registered Republican.

The Guardian has described Owens as "ultra-conservative", and New York magazine and the Columbia Journalism Review have described her as "right-wing". The Daily Beast has called her views "far-right" and the Pacific Standard called her a member of the "alt-right", though she has rejected both terms. She was influenced by the works of Ann Coulter, Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Carson, and Thomas Sowell.

Owens has said: "The left hates America, and Trump loves it."] She has said that the left is "destroying everything through this cultural Marxist ideology." In late March 2020, Owen argued that the United States was suffering from a "doomsday cult" of liberal paranoia.

Race relations
Owens is known for her criticism of the Black Lives Matter movement and has described Black Lives Matter protesters as "a bunch of whiny toddlers, pretending to be oppressed for attention". Owens has argued that African Americans have a "victim mentality," often referring to the Democratic Party as a "plantation".] She has argued that the American left "like black people to be government-dependent" and that black people have been brainwashed to vote for Democrats. She has argued that police violence against black people is not about racism, and referred to police killings of black people as a trivial matter to African Americans. She has characterized abortion as a tool for the "extermination" of black babies.

She has said, "Black Americans are doing worse off economically today than we were doing in the 1950s under Jim Crow," adding that this is because "we've only been voting for one party since then." She has attributed economic improvements for African Americans, such as a low unemployment rate, to Trump's presidency.

When asked if it was problematic that white supremacist groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan, support Trump, Owens answered that Antifa was more prevalent than the KKK. Owens has said that the media cover the KKK during Trump's presidency to hurt him. In a 2019 hearing on hate crimes, Owens referred to the KKK as a "Democrat terrorist organization". After the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, Owens said that concern over rising white nationalism was "stupid". In 2018, Owens dismissed reports of a resurgence in hate crimes, saying "All of the violence this year primarily happened because of people on the left."

On Facebook, Owens wrote "I proudly self-identify as an Uncle Tom."

Owens in 2019
During her April 2019 testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on the rise of hate crimes and white supremacists in the United States, Owens made the claim that the Southern Strategy employed by the Republican party to boost its appeal to racist voters was a "myth" that "never happened". This was disputed by several historians who said that the existence of the Southern Strategy was well documented in contemporaneous sources dating back to the Civil Rights era, with historian Kevin M. Kruse, who writes about modern conservatism, calling Owens's statement "utter nonsense".

In June 2019, Owens said that African Americans had it better in the first 100 years after the abolition of slavery than they have since] and that socialism was at fault.

Women's rights
Owens opposes abortion. She has called abortion a tool for the "extermination of black babies".

Owens is critical of feminism. Owens described the #MeToo movement – an international movement against sexual harassment and assault – as "stupid" and said that she "hated" it. Owens wrote that the movement was premised on the idea that "women are stupid, weak & inconsequential".

LGBT rights
Owens supports same-sex marriage. On July 28, 2017, Owens came out in favor of banning transgender individuals who are undergoing sex reassignment surgery from serving in the United States military, but said that she is fine with fully transitioned transgender individuals serving in the United States military.

Welfare
Owens opposes welfare, although she says that she has family who use it.

Gun rights
Owens is a registered member of the National Rifle Association (NRA). She has said that the NRA was founded as a civil rights organization that trained African Americans to arm themselves. To the contrary, Politifact has shown that the NRA was founded by Union Civil War veterans to improve soldiers' marksmanship.

Muslim immigration
In 2018, Owens warned that "Europe will fall and become a Muslim majority continent by 2050," and "There has never been a Muslim majority country where sharia law was not implemented." She suggested that the United States would then be "forced to save" the British.

Controversies
Dispute with Mollie Tibbetts' family
In August 2018, Owens had a dispute with a cousin of Mollie Tibbetts. Tibbetts was murdered, allegedly by Cristhian Bahena Rivera, a 24 year old Mexican undocumented immigrant. Tibbetts' cousin said that Owens had exploited Tibbetts' death for "political propaganda". Owens responded, describing the cousin's criticism as a "strange" attack on Trump supporters. Later that month the University of Iowa chapter of Turning Point USA criticized Owens for "public harassment" towards a member of Tibbetts' family.

Comments on 2018 mail bombing attempts

In October 2018, during the mail bombing attempts targeting prominent Democrats, Owens took to Twitter to promote the conspiracy theory that the mailings were sent by leftists. After authorities on October 26 arrested a 56-year-old suspect who was a registered Republican and Trump supporter, Owens deleted her tweet without explanation.

Comments about Hitler
At the launch of the British offshoot Turning Point UK in December 2018, in response to an audience member who asked for a "long-term prognosis" about the terms "globalism" and "nationalism", Owens said:

I actually don't have any problems at all with the word "nationalism". I think that the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I don't want. Whenever we say "nationalism" the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. You know, [Hitler] was a national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. The problem is that he wanted—he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German. Everybody to look a different way. That's not, to me, that's not nationalism.

Following heavy criticism for her comments, Owens clarified them on Twitter and in a Judiciary Committee hearing in the US House of Representatives in February 2019. Owens said that "[Hitler] was a homicidal, psychopathic, maniac that killed his own people" and "[Hitler was not a Nationalist, he] murdered his own people, a nationalist would not kill their own people". That the point of her comments was to say that there is "no excuse or defense ever for... everything that [Hitler] did". She also said that her comments were about Hitler's crimes against Jews.

Owens' comments about Hitler were played in April 2019 by Representative Ted Lieu during testimony in front of the House Judiciary Committee about the issue of increasing hate crimes and white supremacy in America. Lieu said that he did not know Owens and was just going to let her own words characterize her, before playing the audio clip. Owens responded that Lieu had deliberately omitted an interviewer's question that provided critical context to her words, with the intent of misrepresenting them as an endorsement of Hitler, to smear her reputation.

Donald Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. praised Owens on Twitter for "call(ing) out the Dems on their purposeful manipulation of facts for their narrative".

Mention in Christchurch shooter's 'manifesto'
The terrorist who committed the Christchurch mosque shootings produced a 'manifesto' in which he wrote that Owens had "influenced him above all". According to journalist Robert Evans, it was "possible, even likely" that the shooter was a fan of Owens, considering her rhetoric against Muslim immigrants, but in context the terrorist's references to her may have been an example of "shitposting" intended to provoke political conflict.

Hours after the shootings, Owens posted a tweet in reaction to allegations that she inspired the mass murder, saying that she never created any content espousing her views on the 2nd Amendment (to the United States Constitution) or Islam. Her tweet was criticized[by whom?] for appearing glib, and it was reported that she actually had posted tweets about the 2nd Amendment and Islam. She later made formal statements rejecting any connection to the shooter.

George Floyd protests
In June 2020, she falsely claimed that George Soros paid people to protest the killing of George Floyd.Shortly afterwards, she argued that George Floyd, who was killed by a police officer who knelt on his neck for almost nine minutes, "was not a good person. I don't care who wants to spin that." She said, "The fact that he has been held up as a martyr sickens me." President Trump retweeted Owens's remarks about Floyd.



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The thing is , as useful as Wiki is , it is far from perfect .. you only have to search it for one of your favourite interests .. pop star , actor or whatever to realise that it’s full of flaws .

I only checked the last paragraph on her when she said that he was a bad person - well sadly he was .

Now I know the guy was totally wrong to kneel on his neck and he should be jailed of course but moments before he was arrested he’d used a fake bill to pay for cigarettes - then refused to return the cigs after being told it was fake - he was also apparently high on amphetamines and resisted arrest aggressively .

Now he’d been in jail FIVE times so gawd knows how many other offences he’d committed
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Candace Amber Owens Farmer (born April 29, 1989) is an American conservative commentator and political activist.She is known for her pro-Trump activism that began around 2016 after being initially very critical of Trump and the Republican Party, and for her criticism of Black Lives Matter and of the Democratic Party. She worked for the conservative advocacy group Turning Point USA between 2017 and 2019 as their communications director.

Early career
Degree180 and anti-conservative blog
In 2015, Owens was CEO of Degree180, a marketing agency that offered consultation, production, and planning services. The website included a blog which frequently posted anti-conservative and anti-Trump content, including mockery of his penis size.] In a 2015 column that Owens wrote for the site, she criticized conservative Republicans, writing about the "bat-shit-crazy antics of the Republican Tea Party", adding, "The good news is, they will eventually die off (peacefully in their sleep, we hope), and then we can get right on with the OBVIOUS social change that needs to happen, IMMEDIATELY."]
Privacy violation, Gamergate, and political transformation

Owens launched SocialAutopsy.com in 2016, a website she said would expose bullies on the Internet by tracking their digital footprint. The site would have solicited users to take screenshots of offensive posts and send them to the website, where they would be categorized by the user's name.[ She used crowdfunding on Kickstarter for the website.

The proposal was immediately controversial, drawing criticism that Owens was de-anonymizing (doxing) Internet users and violating their privacy. According to The Daily Dot, "People from all sides of the anti-harassment debate were quick to criticize the database, calling it a public shaming list that would encourage doxing and retaliatory harassment." Both conservatives and progressives involved in the Gamergate controversy condemned the website.

In response, people began posting Owens' private details online. Owens blamed, with scant evidence, the doxing on progressives involved in the Gamergate controversy. After this, she earned the support of conservatives involved in the Gamergate controversy, including right-wing political commentators and Trump supporters Milo Yiannopoulos and Mike Cernovich.[2] After this, Owens became a conservative, saying in 2017, "I became a conservative overnight ... I realized that liberals were actually the racists. Liberals were actually the trolls ... Social Autopsy is why I'm conservative".

Kickstarter suspended funding for Social Autopsy, and the website was never created

Conservative activism
Owens speaks at the White House in 2019
By 2017, Owens had become known in conservative circles for her pro-Trump commentary, and for criticizing liberal rhetoric regarding structural racism, systemic inequality, and identity politics. In 2017, she began posting politically themed videos to YouTube. In September 2017, she launched Red Pill Black, a website and YouTube channel that promotes black conservatism in the United States.

On November 21, 2017, at the MAGA Rally and Expo in Rockford, Illinois, Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk announced that Owens had been hired as the organization's director of urban engagement. Turning Point's hiring of Owens occurred in the wake of allegations of racism at Turning Point. In May 2019, Owens announced her departure as Communications Director for the organization.

In April 2018, Kanye West tweeted "I love the way Candace Owens thinks." The tweet was met with derision among some of West's fans. In May 2018, President Donald Trump said that Owens "is having a big impact on politics in our country. She represents an ever-expanding group of very smart 'thinkers,' and it is wonderful to watch and hear the dialogue going on... so good for our Country!"

Owens has appeared on fringe conspiracy websites, such as InfoWars. In 2018, she was a guest host on Fox News.[2] After finding mainstream success, Owens distanced herself from the far-right conspiracy websites, although she refused to criticize InfoWars or its hosts.

In May 2018, Owens suggested that "something bio-chemically happens" to women who do not marry or have children, and she linked to the Twitter handles of Sarah Silverman, Chelsea Handler, and Kathy Griffin, saying that they were "evidentiary support" of this theory.[ Silverman responded: "It seems to me that by tweeting this, you would like to maybe make us feel badly. I'd say this is evidenced by ur effort to use our twitter handles so we would see. My heart breaks for you, Candy. I hope you find happiness in whatever form that takes."] Owens responded, accusing Silverman of supporting terrorists and crime gangs.

Owens hosts The Candace Owens Show on PragerU's YouTube channel.

In April 2020, Owens announced her intention to either run for office in the U.S. Senate or to be a governor, and that she would only run against an incumbent Democrat, not a Republican. She did not reveal which specific office she would run for, or in which election cycle.

Blexit movement
In October 2018, Owens and the Donald Trump presidential campaign launched the Blexit movement, a social media campaign to encourage African Americans to abandon the Democratic Party and register as Republicans. The term Blexit—a portmanteau of ’Black’ and ’exit’—mimics Brexit, the word used to describe the United Kingdom's withdrawal from the European Union. On the launch, Owens said that her "dear friend and fellow superhero Kanye West" designed merchandise for the movement, but the following day, West denied being the designer and disavowed the effort, saying "I never wanted any association with Blexit" and "I've been used to spread messages I don't believe in." Shortly after the launch, The Daily Beast found that approximately 16 percent of the total tweets using the #blexit hashtag were from Twitter accounts associated with the promotion of Russian disinformation.

Political views
Ideology
Owens said she had no interest in politics whatsoever before 2015, but previously identified as liberal. In 2017, she began describing herself as a conservative Trump supporter. Owens has since characterized Trump as the "savior" of Western civilization. She has argued that Trump has neither engaged in rhetoric that is harmful to African Americans, nor proposed policies that would harm African Americans. She said in October 2018 that she had never voted and had only recently become a registered Republican.

The Guardian has described Owens as "ultra-conservative", and New York magazine and the Columbia Journalism Review have described her as "right-wing". The Daily Beast has called her views "far-right" and the Pacific Standard called her a member of the "alt-right", though she has rejected both terms. She was influenced by the works of Ann Coulter, Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Carson, and Thomas Sowell.

Owens has said: "The left hates America, and Trump loves it."] She has said that the left is "destroying everything through this cultural Marxist ideology." In late March 2020, Owen argued that the United States was suffering from a "doomsday cult" of liberal paranoia.

Race relations
Owens is known for her criticism of the Black Lives Matter movement and has described Black Lives Matter protesters as "a bunch of whiny toddlers, pretending to be oppressed for attention". Owens has argued that African Americans have a "victim mentality," often referring to the Democratic Party as a "plantation".] She has argued that the American left "like black people to be government-dependent" and that black people have been brainwashed to vote for Democrats. She has argued that police violence against black people is not about racism, and referred to police killings of black people as a trivial matter to African Americans. She has characterized abortion as a tool for the "extermination" of black babies.

She has said, "Black Americans are doing worse off economically today than we were doing in the 1950s under Jim Crow," adding that this is because "we've only been voting for one party since then." She has attributed economic improvements for African Americans, such as a low unemployment rate, to Trump's presidency.

When asked if it was problematic that white supremacist groups, such as the Ku Klux Klan, support Trump, Owens answered that Antifa was more prevalent than the KKK. Owens has said that the media cover the KKK during Trump's presidency to hurt him. In a 2019 hearing on hate crimes, Owens referred to the KKK as a "Democrat terrorist organization". After the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, Owens said that concern over rising white nationalism was "stupid". In 2018, Owens dismissed reports of a resurgence in hate crimes, saying "All of the violence this year primarily happened because of people on the left."

On Facebook, Owens wrote "I proudly self-identify as an Uncle Tom."

Owens in 2019
During her April 2019 testimony before the House Judiciary Committee on the rise of hate crimes and white supremacists in the United States, Owens made the claim that the Southern Strategy employed by the Republican party to boost its appeal to racist voters was a "myth" that "never happened". This was disputed by several historians who said that the existence of the Southern Strategy was well documented in contemporaneous sources dating back to the Civil Rights era, with historian Kevin M. Kruse, who writes about modern conservatism, calling Owens's statement "utter nonsense".

In June 2019, Owens said that African Americans had it better in the first 100 years after the abolition of slavery than they have since] and that socialism was at fault.

Women's rights
Owens opposes abortion. She has called abortion a tool for the "extermination of black babies".

Owens is critical of feminism. Owens described the #MeToo movement – an international movement against sexual harassment and assault – as "stupid" and said that she "hated" it. Owens wrote that the movement was premised on the idea that "women are stupid, weak & inconsequential".

LGBT rights
Owens supports same-sex marriage. On July 28, 2017, Owens came out in favor of banning transgender individuals who are undergoing sex reassignment surgery from serving in the United States military, but said that she is fine with fully transitioned transgender individuals serving in the United States military.

Welfare
Owens opposes welfare, although she says that she has family who use it.

Gun rights
Owens is a registered member of the National Rifle Association (NRA). She has said that the NRA was founded as a civil rights organization that trained African Americans to arm themselves. To the contrary, Politifact has shown that the NRA was founded by Union Civil War veterans to improve soldiers' marksmanship.

Muslim immigration
In 2018, Owens warned that "Europe will fall and become a Muslim majority continent by 2050," and "There has never been a Muslim majority country where sharia law was not implemented." She suggested that the United States would then be "forced to save" the British.

Controversies
Dispute with Mollie Tibbetts' family
In August 2018, Owens had a dispute with a cousin of Mollie Tibbetts. Tibbetts was murdered, allegedly by Cristhian Bahena Rivera, a 24 year old Mexican undocumented immigrant. Tibbetts' cousin said that Owens had exploited Tibbetts' death for "political propaganda". Owens responded, describing the cousin's criticism as a "strange" attack on Trump supporters. Later that month the University of Iowa chapter of Turning Point USA criticized Owens for "public harassment" towards a member of Tibbetts' family.

Comments on 2018 mail bombing attempts

In October 2018, during the mail bombing attempts targeting prominent Democrats, Owens took to Twitter to promote the conspiracy theory that the mailings were sent by leftists. After authorities on October 26 arrested a 56-year-old suspect who was a registered Republican and Trump supporter, Owens deleted her tweet without explanation.

Comments about Hitler
At the launch of the British offshoot Turning Point UK in December 2018, in response to an audience member who asked for a "long-term prognosis" about the terms "globalism" and "nationalism", Owens said:

I actually don't have any problems at all with the word "nationalism". I think that the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism. Globalism is what I don't want. Whenever we say "nationalism" the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. You know, [Hitler] was a national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay, fine. The problem is that he wanted—he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German. Everybody to look a different way. That's not, to me, that's not nationalism.

Following heavy criticism for her comments, Owens clarified them on Twitter and in a Judiciary Committee hearing in the US House of Representatives in February 2019. Owens said that "[Hitler] was a homicidal, psychopathic, maniac that killed his own people" and "[Hitler was not a Nationalist, he] murdered his own people, a nationalist would not kill their own people". That the point of her comments was to say that there is "no excuse or defense ever for... everything that [Hitler] did". She also said that her comments were about Hitler's crimes against Jews.

Owens' comments about Hitler were played in April 2019 by Representative Ted Lieu during testimony in front of the House Judiciary Committee about the issue of increasing hate crimes and white supremacy in America. Lieu said that he did not know Owens and was just going to let her own words characterize her, before playing the audio clip. Owens responded that Lieu had deliberately omitted an interviewer's question that provided critical context to her words, with the intent of misrepresenting them as an endorsement of Hitler, to smear her reputation.

Donald Trump's son Donald Trump Jr. praised Owens on Twitter for "call(ing) out the Dems on their purposeful manipulation of facts for their narrative".

Mention in Christchurch shooter's 'manifesto'
The terrorist who committed the Christchurch mosque shootings produced a 'manifesto' in which he wrote that Owens had "influenced him above all". According to journalist Robert Evans, it was "possible, even likely" that the shooter was a fan of Owens, considering her rhetoric against Muslim immigrants, but in context the terrorist's references to her may have been an example of "shitposting" intended to provoke political conflict.

Hours after the shootings, Owens posted a tweet in reaction to allegations that she inspired the mass murder, saying that she never created any content espousing her views on the 2nd Amendment (to the United States Constitution) or Islam. Her tweet was criticized[by whom?] for appearing glib, and it was reported that she actually had posted tweets about the 2nd Amendment and Islam. She later made formal statements rejecting any connection to the shooter.

George Floyd protests
In June 2020, she falsely claimed that George Soros paid people to protest the killing of George Floyd.Shortly afterwards, she argued that George Floyd, who was killed by a police officer who knelt on his neck for almost nine minutes, "was not a good person. I don't care who wants to spin that." She said, "The fact that he has been held up as a martyr sickens me." President Trump retweeted Owens's remarks about Floyd.

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19 Jun 2020, 1:13 pm

Candace Owens has made a career out of lending cover to racists. :roll:
Uncle Rukus would be proud to call her his daughter.


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19 Jun 2020, 4:29 pm

This video, along with most everything she says, is manipulative rubbish.

She's a token mouthpiece. She uses half-truths and manipulation to drive her propaganda.



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This video, along with most everything she says, is manipulative rubbish.

She's a token mouthpiece. She uses half-truths and manipulation to drive her propaganda.


She's made a decent living off of nodding in agreement with white supremacists.


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uncommondenominator wrote:
This video, along with most everything she says, is manipulative rubbish.

She's a token mouthpiece. She uses half-truths and manipulation to drive her propaganda.



I don’t know her from Adam but she seemed to make an awful lot of sense during that 15 minute rant ..imho



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What are your thoughts on this young lady’s comments?

Have a listen to when you have a few minutes free or better still 15 minutes to spare ..

https://www.facebook.com/realCandaceOwe ... 870461345/


Here is the youtube link:



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I think her accent is absolutely wonderful.

Also, her decision to wait, research, and make a plan and a decent ideal before she goes to the internet is admirable. No need for me to re-iterate her points. They're right there on the video and she is talking clearly enough for people to understand if they don't go into it with a preconceived notion to defend.

There are points in this video that I have never heard anywhere. Glad to hear someone pointing out the flaws in black culture as well as the many wonderful parts.

A good look at the comment section, with all the hate she is getting, explains exactly why a lot of white southerners don't like Negros. It's not the color. It's the culture. Everything coming from her black commentators insulting her as a house slave or Uncle Tom, saying she never lived in "the hood" and that it doesn't matter what she says because she goes against the hood narrative, is only serving to prove her points.

I think I like her talk.

You are right. She'll receive a lot of hate of her own people for this.


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uncommondenominator wrote:
This video, along with most everything she says, is manipulative rubbish.

She's a token mouthpiece. She uses half-truths and manipulation to drive her propaganda.


She's made a decent living off of nodding in agreement with white supremacists.



Your thoughts on her rant though ?

I agree with the ridiculous idea of making out the guy ( and other similar instances ) was a fine upstanding man and showing illustrations of him wings a halo and wings when he was apparently a nasty , aggressive drug taking bully who’d been in jail 5 times ( imagine how many actual offences and unpleasant things he’d done .



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ImagineDragons wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
uncommondenominator wrote:
This video, along with most everything she says, is manipulative rubbish.

She's a token mouthpiece. She uses half-truths and manipulation to drive her propaganda.


She's made a decent living off of nodding in agreement with white supremacists.



Your thoughts on her rant though ?

I agree with the ridiculous idea of making out the guy ( and other similar instances ) was a fine upstanding man and showing illustrations of him wings a halo and wings when he was apparently a nasty , aggressive drug taking bully who’d been in jail 5 times ( imagine how many actual offences and unpleasant things he’d done .


I'm not interested in addressing her rant, she doesn't deserve 15 minutes of my life.

Does him not being an upstanding gentleman mean he deserved to be murdered in the street?


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