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Eggman
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19 Aug 2008, 1:17 am

Sounds like she is the one with a mental disorder

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20 Aug 2008, 8:08 am

I am pro-vaccine. I dont know how it is in other countries but I know I was displaying aspie tendencies before I was vaccinated and I'd much prefer to know that my child is safe.

Role Birmingham (England) 2008, TB hits 25 pupils in a school, all non vaccinated, mostly immigrants (nothing against immigration but they weren't vaccinated in their home countries) controlled because people who had beeen vaccinated did not get the disease.

I'd had the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine together and the only problem I had was feeling queezy for 10 minutes due to my phobia of needles. I have also had my meningitus (not sure how thats spelt) no problems.

The amount of people who react to the vaccines compared with the amount of lives saved is incomparable here, though I've never heard of having 7 at once.

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20 Aug 2008, 10:12 am

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This is one reason it's really offensive, not to mention dangerous, to begin viewing disabled people as burdens, as not real people but rather empty shells, and as simply taking up resources and giving nothing in return. Not to mention the very idea that the only worth a person has is their economic contribution, which is not true at all. This also means that the autistic community should not be saying "We are, unlike these other people, not empty shells," but rather, "This is a description that no living being should be subjecte to, not us nor anyone else".

How horrible to think of disabled people as burdens! Don't they account for intellectual and scientific contributions? And where do you draw the line? Only physically strong and/or beautiful people should live? Last time I checked, Adolf was not exactly a muscle hunk.

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20 Aug 2008, 10:40 am

Yes, unlike you, most intolerant people are really just fat slobs whose parents were in the KKK or some other such nonsense.`

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20 Aug 2008, 1:35 pm

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You mean you had no problems at the time? How about in 10 years time, any idea what the effects could be? 20? 30? No? Didn't think so.

A lot of my friends haven't vaccinated their children, and they're the healthiest I know. No ear infections, no colds, no constant tummy bugs and whatever else most kids seem to have.

Sadly, another friend's daughter was just given 8 injections yesterday in the space of half an hour. Poor little mite, I hate to think what it's done to her.

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20 Aug 2008, 1:42 pm

Religion is worse than useless - it is a menace to those who can not or will not conform.

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20 Aug 2008, 3:45 pm

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Because correlation always implies causation. It's not like any other factor could intervene and cause illness twenty years after someone gets their shots. Nope, evil has a single tiny root.

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20 Aug 2008, 4:31 pm

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Because correlation always implies causation. It's not like any other factor could intervene and cause illness twenty years after someone gets their shots. Nope, evil has a single tiny root.

I'm sorry, but while it may seem that way, correlation does not imply causation. Merely because two events occur in the same context or in sequence does not prove that one causes the other. To state otherwise is to commit the Fallacy of False Cause.

Example #1:

1) Bob went to bed fully clothed.
2) Bob woke up the next morning feeling sick.

:: Going to bed fully clothed makes people sick.

Never mind that Bob was too drunk to undress himself before going to bed, and that he suffered a hangover the next morning.

Example #2:

1) Sue prays for rain.
2) It rains within 7 days.

:: Prayer brings rain.

Sue also lives in County Donegal in Ireland, where the likelihood of rain on any given day over the course of a year is slightly greater than 50%.

Correlation does not imply causation; people infer causation, and usually from incomplete knowledge.

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20 Aug 2008, 5:44 pm

MissPickwickian wrote:

LeKiwi wrote:

Because correlation always implies causation. It's not like any other factor could intervene and cause illness twenty years after someone gets their shots. Nope, evil has a single tiny root.

You seem very sure of yourself. Have you done the research? Do you know for a fact that vaccines don't cause lasting damage, despite the cocktail of poisons they contain and the repeated injecting of them into immature immune systems? Until you do and you can conclusively tell me that they don't, keep your sarcasm to yourself.

[Fnord, she was being sarcastic

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26 Sep 2010, 12:39 am

you cannot "fix" us

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