I am appalled at the Dutch State: Discrimination

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22 May 2011, 4:57 pm

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Discrimination in a so-called "western" and "modern" state, stories from a Tin-Pot Little European Country..

I was at the birthday of a cousin of mine today who is as yet undiagnosed, her mother and brother both have a diagnosis on the spectrum. At that birthday the subject of autism-based discrimination came to a light and one of the items literally shocked me. Apparently an 18-year old boy had been denied the right to take a practical driving exam in spite of the fact his driving instructor had faith in him and the Central Bureau for Driving is obligated to allow a person to take his exam.

Articles: (in dutch)
http://www.verkeerspro.nl/rijschool/2011/03/24/rijexamen-van-leerling-met-asperger-afgebroken-door-cbr/

Has anyone ever heard of this happening before?

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22 May 2011, 5:08 pm

Wow, I haven't, but I don't want to see stories like that.
This will only make us live in more fear for revealing our diagnoses. You didn't mention but I assume the person was denied because of his diagnosis, no other reason (can't read dutch)?

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22 May 2011, 5:15 pm

Yeah, that was indeed because of his diagnosis, he doesn't even use medication that might actually impair his ability to drive.

I've also heard something about Dela, a dutch insurance company which pays for funerals and such in the case of ones death, refuses to insure people with Autism. Although there are some webpages with references to this I've not been able to verify this though.

It's like they go out of their way to tell us we're not wanted

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22 May 2011, 5:18 pm

Stuff like that makes my blood boil. As if autism is a terminal "illness", or it makes death 100 times more likely or something...
Thanks for sharing in any case.

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24 May 2011, 1:57 am

hadrian_f wrote:

It's absurd, but what do you expect from a socialist nanny state? When you have a government that is so big and intrusive that you have to ask it's permission to do things, bureaucratic BS is going to happen.

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25 May 2011, 10:19 am

What socialist nanny state are you referring to, last time I checked the Netherlands was still a Capitalist state. And it's getting worse

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25 May 2011, 10:36 am

John_Browning wrote:

The sort of place where you have to wait an hour for a simple blood test, you mean? The sort of place where denying treatment to certain groups (who have already paid for it) is actively being mooted?

The sort of place where doctors get paid to harass their patients on their lifestyle choices?

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26 May 2011, 3:31 pm

That socialist nanny state is called Norway. The government is quick to give you special education (there are 200 special education schools for children with autism in Norway, yet we only have 5 million inhabitants....), give you an apartment in a project for people with need for "continuous monitoring" and they make you put firewood in bags at a state owned factory for 10 dollars an hour...

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30 May 2011, 6:28 am

i also read this article, actually, i read it 3 times becouse i could not believe my eyes.
i got my liscence myself, being a diagnosed aspie, but i didn't tell the driving instructor; what i did hear is that i drove a lot more safely then almost any other driving student; actually, the reason i faild my first practical exam was that i was *too* careful :S

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30 May 2011, 12:43 pm

alexfromnorway wrote:

That sounds depressing, it sounds like they are trying to sweep the issue under the carpet, instead of trying to find people with disability with meaningful work suited to there skills, This is one reason why I am warier of going on Disability and getting employment support.

I'm thankful they have not gotten like that in Canada with Drivers licensee yet(I fear they mite get like that tho), I got mine, and I drive perfectly fine. In North America, unless you live in a big city with a mass transit system you need a car to find employment

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