The UK's NHS's Selective Manner of Autism Diagnosis

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Some diagnosticians appeared to me to have a poor understanding of clinical diagnostic criteria in any case. I lost count of the times I heard them say "he/she cant be Autistic because they made eye contact, have some friends etc".

In my opinion the clinical diagnostic process is very much part of the 'business of Autism' and the neurotypical folk that make up most of the staff teams in these services have a vested interest in being valued as 'gatekeepers' and maintaining the power imbalance that exist between them and Autistic people.

I have found that private diagnostic assessment in the UK is more nuanced and reliable.

But OCD is like, I want to stop, but I can't.

I'm not sure when it really started to change, but back in the '90s I got an OCD diagnosis that effectively blocked getting an ADHD diagnosis which has partially blocked me from getting a proper ASD diagnosis. The fact that there were various schizophrenia spectrum diagnoses in there as well hasn't helped.

I think the whole situation is tragically comical as there seems to be far more concern with people gaming the system by knowing their autistic than addressing the massive misdiagnosis problem that includes folks that didn't get the ASD diagnosis that they should have been being treated with antipsychotics and other inappropriate medications for years, when therapy and adjustments to the environment around them might be more appropriate and not necessarily very expensive.

No, medications are easy to prescribe and the drug companies get paid.

Therapists are expensive.

One could say I am high functioning as I have a higher than average I.Q.

What I will say is that for me, I became desparate due to the situation I was in.

I have noticed I get lost in details... I started looking for a tool today and I ended up being sidetracked and spent a few hours on something else. When I was tired out and ready to pack in, I remembered I was looking for the tool! It will wait for tomorrow or another day!

Thousands of children are on "hidden" waiting lists for autism and ADHD assessments, experts have told the BBC.

This is despite the Scottish government hitting its waiting times target for young people's mental health services for the first time last month.

The Royal College of Psychiatrists (RCPsych) in Scotland said the number of children on separate lists waiting to be assessed for neurodevelopmental conditions is not routinely published and the Scottish government needs to be more transparent.

Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services (CAMHS) aims to help children with mental health problems which are causing a significant impact on their day-to-day lives, such as anxiety, depression, self-harm and eating disorders.

Last month, the latest official figures showed that 90% of young people had started treatment within 18 weeks of referral to CAMHS.

This was the first time the target had been reached since it was set more than a decade ago.
However, Dr Laura Sutherland, who is the vice chair of the RCPsych in Scotland child & adolescent faculty, said children who are the most at risk are prioritised which can result in people with a neurodevelopmental condition waiting longer.

"Often there is not an immediate risk which is why some of these young people can wait for longer but I think overall the impact is longer term," she said.

"It means young people can't get into education or be supported adequately and ultimately some of these young people will go on to develop mental health conditions on the back of neurodiverse conditions."

BBC Scotland News submitted Freedom of Information requests last year to try to gain an insight into the scale of waiting lists for young people looking for help with neurodevelopmental conditions.

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde said 7,560 children were waiting for a first appointment as of last spring, while for NHS Lothian the figure was 6,192 and for NHS Lanarkshire it was 8,571.

NHS Highland said 1,537 children were waiting for a neurodevelopmental assessment there.

However, not all health boards collect this data in the same way and it is not consistently published.

Dr Sutherland, who is also a consultant psychiatrist for CAMHS in Tayside, told the BBC the Scottish government should be more transparent about these "hidden waits".

She said there should be ring-fenced funding for neurodevelopmental pathways to support vulnerable young people.

There are a number of routes for children to get a neurodevelopmental assessment.
The most common are for autism and ADHD.

Some children may be referred to paediatrics but many will initially go through CAMHS then be put on a neurodevelopmental waiting list.

It is the same specialist healthcare staff working with CAMHS, including psychiatrists, who carry out neurodevelopmental assessments and give diagnoses.

So there is competition for the resources which are already short-staffed.

There has been an increase in demand across the country in recent years.

In March, NHS Tayside stopped all new referrals for ADHD and autism to CAMHS due to increase demand for assessments.

Suzi Martin, from the National Autistic Society Scotland, said she was very concerned at the withdrawal of autism assessment services in some areas.

"Not only is diagnosis a validating and life-affirming experience for many, but families tell us that it can be extremely challenging, if not impossible, to get support without one," she said.

Ms Martin said the society had been calling for more transparency on autism assessment waiting times for years and said they should be published, like they are in England.

The Salvesen Mindroom Centre, a charity that works with young people in Scotland who are neurodivergent, has seen a 295% increase in the number of people it supported last year compared to 2020.

Alan Thornburrow, the chief executive officer, said: "We can't possibly respond to the levels of demand that are out there, it's just impossible to service."

He said there has been a huge increase in the prevalence in anxiety in the young people they support.

Rosie, 16, was referred to CAMHS when she was eight.

She was living with her grandparents who helped her get mental health support and she had her first appointment after waiting a year.

It took five years before she was diagnosed with autism.

"Getting that confirmation, it was quite emotional and I cried," Rosie said.

"Then in the weeks following it just gave me a better understanding of myself."

Rosie, who also has foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, said having an NHS autism diagnosis opened up access to a lot of support.

During Covid lockdowns she struggled with her mental health, she became anxious when she left the house and stopped going to school.

She continued sessions with CAMHS but found there were long waits between appointments.
Through more regular one-to-one sessions with a support worker from Salvesen Mindroom Centre, Rosie said she worked on her anxiety and confidence and has returned to education this year.

Rising demand
There are a wide range of forms of neurodivergence including autism, dyslexia, dyspraxia, Tourette Syndrome or ADHD which can impact many aspects of life in different ways.

ADHD is characterised by difficulties with impulsivity, maintaining attention and restlessness while autism is associated with social communication difficulties, focused interests and repetitive behaviours.

Dr Sutherland said it is a positive step that children are being seen within the CAMHS target timeframe but warns that there can still be long waits for further treatment or between sessions because of staff shortages and rising demand.

"We are short of about 500 staff of all types - psychiatrists, psychologists, nursing staff - so it is very difficult to meet these targets," she said.

The RCPsych said that referrals to CAMHS had gone up 3% in the past year, with a 500% increase in those referred for eating disorders.

Children's Minister Maree Todd told BBC Radio's Good Morning Scotland: "Let me be absolutely clear that long waits for neurodevelopmental support are unacceptable."

She said it was vital children received support they they need it and that it "must not be dependent on diagnosis".

The minister said: "We do need to work more on ensuring that high standards of access to care are available in every part of the country."

Todd said the government had "really substantially" increased funding for mental health services but there was more work to do.

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Oh absolutely! Hence the C for Compulsive. And yet, so many people, including the professionals, don't seem to understand about the compulsivity:

"But can't you just not do that?! I don't see why not ..."

"Because you don't feel what I feel! You can't see feelings!"

Precontemplative.

Certainly complete by 2012. I recall somone from hospital who was diagnosed with Bipolar, and he told me that he had come to believe that once one had a diagnosis, it will be the sole primary diagnosis and it will never be changed, no matter what happens next. The term "confirmation bias" comes to mind.

Later we were talking to another in the hospital, also with a bipolar diagnosis, and we asked him how that came about. He told us that he had seen Hitler as a grey-haired old man walk out of a shop in front of him. He told everyone about this, and got sectioned. Bipolar Disorder was diagnosed. We thought that was mad, as it was clearly a psychotic episode, which is nothing to do with Bipolar Disorder. I doubt he got the diagnosis changed.