Autism Abortion & Domestic Terrorism (Criminality)

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This topic likely surprise some people. Hell it would get my attention but I wouldn't be offended because autism is not a family for instance and I don't really know any criminals. However online people have made threats about the cure issues and abortion issue. Some say it's time to fight back while making threats against women leaders in the autism awareness community. As a community like any community a percentage of individuals within communities have certain kinds of mental tendencies toward violent behavior and some would call that a type of mental illness but of course not all mental illness is potential criminality. We can't make victims into the offenders because many people with mental illness are victims of crimes as well.

Should the autism community begin to speak against anti-abortion statements that includes violents and or violently suggestive rhetoric? If an autism abortion is made available by means of prenatal testing what will happen? Should we begin to cope with that potential reality now? How can people emotionally heal who feel personally judged by the existence of such a test?

Nathan Young

Abortion is between a woman and her doctor. By preventing women from having prenatal testing you are crossing into a woman's reproductive and abortion rights, which are carved out in stone. It is something the "autism rights' movement" will never be able to win on, so lamenting on the issue is pointless; and your poll is probably the stupidest poll I've ever seen.

I have not been able to find any autistic activism actually geared toward denying women the right to have an abortion. It seems like two different but somewhat related issues are constantly being conflated here.

The issue is about setting up an atmosphere in which is not only preferable but probably encouraged or as at least one official in the UK has suggested, mandatory to abort fetuses that may be autistic.

Is it really reproductive freedom if women are basically pushed into deciding to abort on the basis of horror stories about autism being worse than cancer and stealing their children away? I am not being hyperbolic, but using the same comparisons that have been advanced by those who support researching the ability to detect the possibility of autism pre-natally.

I certainly doubt you could find anyone at ASAN (for example) who would argue that women should not be allowed to abort for any reason, and I suspect most are pro-choice, given that a significant percentage of the membership are themselves women (and, hey, I'm a woman, and I'm trying to make this point here as someone who is absolutely pro-choice, although not a member of ASAN). I don't believe you can hold activists who oppose natal identification responsible for any threats of violence from any particular people.

I don't mean to be rude,
but I have no freaking clue what you're trying to say.

Women leaders such as who? Jenny McCarthy? You can never be too rich or too thin. (Sarcasm)

It's my time off now but I will re-enter the topic tomorrow.

It's not at all confusing. Later I will author a 2 -5 page article about the causal biases between polar views in the autism community. It's not like any side is bad but the truth is important. Some people and or many people need allot of help and the other side others wish to prevent people like me from being aborted in the womb. Inherently having an opinion is not wrong.

i dont think pre natal testing always has anything to with abortion.pre natal testing could improve the lives of disabled children by preparing parents for the future.i dont think we should deny people recovering for sugery or a fracture pain killers just because some people would abuse them.i hope your not saying i have made threats to people about abortion or prenatal testing.my post was a joke about being called a hippie and the joking statement i made was relavent to autistic in fightng.i have never made any threats joking or otherwise concerning cure or abortion

i wanted to clarify my last post.what i meant by dont deny pain killer to medical patients just because some might abuse them.it was a analogy for dont stop prenatal testing just because some might lead to possable abortions.i also strongly am against this paranoia about violence and what not.i personaly dont have a problem with autism speaks,but i respect the opinions of those who do.however i dont see how anyone can say there nazi's.there is way to much loose liped talk and acusations about nazi's,terorists,and crime.i just dont see this as anything but iresponsable paranoia

It was simply an If scenario and yes I have seen some really raw statements out of anger. Did the post say there would or likely be violent acts? No. Again awareness like this is about prevention. Calling it paranoia especially with my being such a skilled mind at these sorts of things is just a little social pay back for winning so many arguments. How about taking the topic somewhat seriously despite the bias of having some advocacy look bad and acknowledging that maybe there might perhaps be a need to create an awareness in an if scenario to dis-promote a remote potential? This deflection of PR image is quite clear but possibilities are possibilities and not certainties.

Would you like me to begin collecting evidence to support the existence of this topic and posting it here?

In general the topic of abortion external from the autism issue there have been deaths. With regards to autism and abortion there have been on record threats. It is illogical to conclude no possibility and certainly irrational to make the possibility even if remote an item of paranoia.

Although I will admit I didn't finish my criminology textbooks in my psychological studies lineup. They creeped me out and I've never opened them up since.The world can have such crazy things like dangerous people!

1. Support the profiling of people that have made written and or verbal threats on the internet on YouTube and or on any other medium and as well as speak against violence as an autism community.

Regrettably in a crazy world this is the responsible choice.

2. Speak against profiling people as stereotypes despite clear warning signs and speak against violence.

A. General profiling without threats being made is wrong.
B. Profiling individuals that have made threats is common sense, lawful and supported by most people.

3. Declare war and an eye for an eye and with every abortion of a person with autism one N.T should die.

This is just crazy.

4. Hope the issue goes away because it's scary for all sides.

I feel like this.

you could be right,ill research this more and we can talk later.i just think this political forum can be extreme at times