questioning the politics of autism

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warning!! ! to militent extremes of autism politics,this post could be hazardous to your dogma.are any of the traditional political argument even relavent.pride vs. cure.fact most non verbal autistics are very intelegent we just have not heard there genius speak with words yet.the parent of non verbal children who dislike autistic pride are fooling themselves.there children have more talent and are more proud of it they know.most verbal autistics are dependent on therapy and medicine as well, i couldnt get through a day without adivan.i hear people say they dont trust aspie,s.however those same people are just a talented and just as proud of it.you cant feel condecended if you never felt pride in the first place.the problem is not with aspie,s but that the media gives us to much credit.i get condecended all the time hear because im not college educated and i came from institutions and state hospitals.i think all autistics verbal or non have genius and feel pride and i think all autistics even aspie,s and nvld,

Protip: If you want people to take you seriously, use proper spelling and grammar.

i think i used to many words and my post was cut off.not everything i wanted to say got posted.as usual i made a short story long.im am trying the overhaul the politics of autism

My understanding is you believe all on the Autism Spectrum are valuable people that can feel good about themselves. From the posts here it is obvious that some that are lower on the spectrum have as much self esteem and determination as those higher on the spectrum.

Everyone is different psychologically and physically. I'm not sure if the media gives anyone too much credit, although if you have Aspergers, it is often assumed that a person is smart with deficits in social skills. I don't think we can have enough advocates for people that need help in life, no matter what their needs are. I don't see any significant harm caused to any of these advocate groups or anyone on the spectrum by differences in opinions on the subject.

I don't have a problem reading your posts. Your grammar and spelling are good enough for me to understand your posts. The way the world planet software works, if you only space once after a period it puts the sentences very close together and makes a paragraph look like one long sentence. If you will space twice after each sentence they won't be so close together and people will be better able to see where your sentences start and end.

I got confused when I heard that aspergers was "high functioning autistic". In whose opinion is it high functioning? it means to me that high functioning means able to communicate well. The Phrase itself, "high functioning autistic", has the unfortunate connotation which leads people to believe they are smarter than "lower functioning autistics".
connotation means the implied meaning of a word. like how home and house mean the same thing but home has more feelings towards the word. This is how the word was described in my english class I hope you can understand

If I was to make a list, including everything I want to achieve in my life; I would choose to create some way of letting Autistics better communicate. Otherwise I am afraid that NT society will not value us as a whole.

good post everyone thank you for your responses.your right.there is no such thing as low functioning autism.quote low functioning autistics are just more withdrawn and less willing or able to talk to people.my point is that the parents of severly autistic children are wrong by being threatened by autistic pride because aspie's hfa' and nvld never had a monopoly on genius in the first place.im also am questioning people on this site with a kanner syndrome diagnoses mistrust of aspie's.this also benifits aspie' hfa's and nvld's who never got the care they needed because people didnt take there medical condition seriously.

Do you think we should say "low functioning autism" or "Autism" and "High Functioning Autism" then?

Do you think that for parents who want their Low functioning Autistic kids to talk they need to give the kids a form of incentive to learn to communicate? I cannot clearly remember my childhood but I think that is what happened with me. The need to communicate was great enough.

And then comes the struggle to learn language as well...

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Low to high functioning is a way to organize for priority and type of services needed in social services. Making this out to be a parent issue of not thinking someone is a genius or because parents think their children are inferior or some kind of peer pressure to make it out as if other people with autism think they are better then others is wrong. What a bunch of made up advocacy political nonesense to have relevancy in the advocacy of folks that are much more disabled. Very high functioning people with autism do not have the same advocacy relevancy all the time as with people with autism that are more disabled.

Nathan Young

im not making a statement about how people should be addressed or they should be diagnosed.this post is not about pride self esteem or anything like that.parents of autistic children being threatened by autistic pride,people on this and other sites mistrusting aspie's and the trivialization of aspies,high functioning auties and nvld's.im open to others concepts,im quetioning political dogma and am not trying to start a new one.thank you for your good point,hope this clarify's

Yes low to high is a way of making organization.
Yes I am sure advocacy differs between low and high
What I am unclear of is the middle of your reply when you talk about

i made a mistake.when i quoted ci i accidently ran my response in with his quote.i was not trying to diminish his quote,just a type o sorry.also i have a old friend named eddie and he is barely verbal,but he climbed every mountain in new hampshire and there's lot of mountains in new hampshire.whats your defination of high or low functioning.non verbal may not always mean low functioning

That is what I am trying to say. I am trying to say that high functioning and low functioning are inappropriate labels. I guess I may just be having a hard time saying this.
Also your friend sounds cool.

Functionalism

SPHERE-1 Functional Independence

SPHERE-2 Cognitive Abilities / May be hindered due to other severe factors preventing development or expression thereof.

Ethics: I'd think it is important everyone speak for themselves. Any organization desiring to speak for people with autism that are self-advocacy premise should be democratic voting based. Organizations that do not allow diversity of opinion by default tend to lose trustability with the public and or with the autism community.

This is just my opinion I'm not the law.