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17 Jan 2021, 5:51 am

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Nancy Doyle - “I am an organizational psychologist specializing in neurodiversity.”

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A lot of the Autistic people I know have at some point been told by a well-meaning friend or associate that “everyone is a little Autistic.” As an ADHDer, I was once told “we all struggle with memory sometimes, don’t we?” No doubt these statements are intended to be empathetic and make the person feel accepted and understood, but that’s not how it is usually received, let me explain why.

Unbeknownst to the people who say it, it is actually a very controversial statement. To people who have experienced being othered and ostracized for their differences it sounds flippant and minimizes our experiences. If everyone was a little Dyslexic, Dyspraxic, Autistic or ADHD then why would neurominorities experience the exclusion that they do? It's a little bit like saying to someone with chronic cluster migraines that "we all have headaches, don't we?" And the answer is no, we don't all have headaches like that.

Neurominorities have been empowered through the neurodiversity movement. We have gained self-confidence and ownership of our identities through accepting that our brains are different and that that difference is okay. So, when someone who has not experienced any great hardships due to their more balanced cognitive abilities tries to claim that they are “a little bit Autistic” it is not surprising that we feel they are incorrectly trying to claim a piece of our hard won identity.

Most of us are familiar with the concept of Autism being a spectrum, although I should be clear that this spectrum is not from low to high as some might think, but actually more of a collection of strengths, struggles and experiential variables that are different for every individual. For all humans, there are a number of different cognitive abilities in which we can excel or lack, we are all somewhere on the spectrum of human capability. Most neurominorities tend to have big differences between the peaks and the troughs, known as the ‘spiky profile’, it’s a defining feature of neurodivergence – diverging from a statistical norm, a diverse profile rather than all average scores. The ‘cut off point’ for how much difference is significant and warrants diagnosis tends to be two standard deviations but this can be blurred by an individual’s background history and environmental factors. It’s something that good Psychologists take a holistic approach to, knowing that sometimes scores can be enhanced by practice and mental training, or depleted by illness, stress and neglect, and that behaviour can be masked or misinterpreted. When broadening this idea out to a general neurodiversity spectrum we can then also start to factor diversity in emotional experience, sensory perception and more.

The degree to which neurominority conditions overlap, go undiagnosed or misdiagnosed due to the holistic approach needed is well explored by Professor Amanda Kirby. It is entirely possible that a person who relates to the concept of everyone being a little Dyslexic, is actually an undiagnosed Dyslexic themselves, or has a similar pattern to their profile without having quite met the threshold of significant difference.

The prevalence of Tourette Syndrome is now thought to be around the same as the prevalence of Autism, but has gone under the radar because we associated TS with complex, more noticeable verbal and physical tics and didn't acknowledge the longer term, pervasive impact of repetitive strain injury and osteoarthritis associated with more subtle lifelong tics. Are some people a 'little bit Tourettes-y'? Or did we just need to adjust the boundaries for diagnosis?

Disablement is not as simple a concept as some might think. Is everyone disabled? No. Can the degree to which you are disabled change throughout your life? Yes. Whilst the phrasing might be a little awkward it is for this reason that someone might actually refer to themselves as a little bit Autistic.

Disability is not a competition and we should certainly not be fighting amongst ourselves as to whose experiences are more valid than the others. I believe we have become so used to a position of needing to fight for our rights or for limited funding that we are sometimes doing this in places where it is not needed, to the detriment of others.

In the same way that functioning labels harm both those who are perceived as “high” or “low” functioning by making assumptions that ultimately limit them and seek to define them in an overly simplistic way, we are becoming too attached to diagnostic labels instead of looking at people as individuals.

It is possible to acknowledge that some people experience greater levels of exclusion and difficulty in their lives without also needing to undermine or devalue the experiences of those who may to date have had an easier ride. Similarly, it is important that those of us with a higher degree of privilege and access do not erase the struggles of others by claiming that we are all the same and talking over them when they have a different perspective to add. We can coexist and all support each because we have more in common than that which divides us.

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17 Jan 2021, 9:21 am

“a little bit Autistic”. Wow who hasn't heard that before. I;m what people consider "high" functioning. I inhabit that grey arena where unless i tell somebody ( Ha! like that's going to happen), they would probably never have a clue.


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17 Jan 2021, 9:34 am

Everyone is a little weird, awkward, clumsy, anxious, confused, klutz, airheaded, unaware, out of place and lonely =/= "Neurodiversity" or whatever attempt on sympathy or inspiration.

So no, not everyone is a little autistic, dyslexic or whatnot. :roll:

Just another funny battle of X quantity/intensity traits attempting to be sympathetic or relatable.


There are other ways to be able to relate, be empathetic, gain acceptance and understanding without having to need to so-called relate or attempt 'sympathy'. :roll:

Of course there are always odds of giving a quip would validate or invalidate whatever suffering people would want to get off their chests. :P
But to me it's just words and wordings all the same, frustrating as it is.


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17 Jan 2021, 10:04 am

The healthiest people are somewhere between socially intelligent and focused/able to be on their own socially/able to concentrate enough to develop intellectually on something.

The more extreme end of the social side of it is called 'autistic'.

The more extreme end of the intelligence side of it is called 'Joey Essex'.

It's best to be somewhere between those extremes.


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17 Jan 2021, 10:44 am

Everyone's a little quadriplegic...



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17 Jan 2021, 10:53 am

Jiheisho wrote:
Everyone's a little quadriplegic...

Everyone's a little tasteless. :twisted:
Everyone's a little poor in every way.
Everyone's a little pitiful. :P But that's just not the same.

More like;
Everyone's a little pregnant. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Everyone's a little man -- not a contradiction! :clown:


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17 Jan 2021, 11:00 am

I still get the "we're all a little bit autistic" from my own family. Given that they seem to be able to handle social situations extremely well and have been able to easily articulate what's gone wrong in their day for much longer, among other things, I take it as one of the signs that it's time to start looking elsewhere for social support.

I think my gut reaction to hearing this in the public sphere would be "exactly how?"



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17 Jan 2021, 11:37 am

Everyone is a little crazy sometimes, but then there`s a little crazy and CRAZY :D


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17 Jan 2021, 12:50 pm

The woman writing the article is correct. We shouldn't fight for validity.


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23 Jan 2021, 12:46 am

My mum. dad and sister don't seem any bit autistic. Neither does my brother in law or my niece. My mother and father in law also don't seem any bit autistic.


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29 Jan 2021, 5:12 pm

Even though I see the disparities in achievement between me and others, I still have difficulty with the idea that my neurology and thinking styles really are that different from other people, or that everyone else on the spectrum really thinks in some way that is fundamentally similar to mine.

Neurodiversity and the idea of "Autistics" as a neurominority assumes that this is the case, but I'm asked to take it on faith, and I'm very selective in general about what I take on faith.


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29 Jan 2021, 5:47 pm

Not exactly. It is quite possible for people that don't have autism to share some autistic traits...the way a mental or physiological condition is diagnosed is if there are enough significant symptoms interfering with life to make the diagnoses. So I mean in reality everyone is a little depressed, everyone is a little anxious, everyone is a little autistic, everyone has a little PTSD ect.

What makes it a diagnoses is if it has enough significant interferences with your life to be significant. I mean my boyfriend is neurotypical as far as I know. But he does have a sensory issue with the sort of material they make stove top burners out out of or stuff with a similar texture. We have a rice cooker and the pot that goes in it has the same kind of texture on the outside so I am usually the one to wash that and fill it with the water for rice, because he doesn't like to touch it. That alone of course would not make him autistic, but it is typical for autistic people to have sensory issues. So people can have traits of such conditions without actually having the condition.


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31 Jan 2021, 9:21 am

Whale_Tuune wrote:
Even though I see the disparities in achievement between me and others, I still have difficulty with the idea that my neurology and thinking styles really are that different from other people, or that everyone else on the spectrum really thinks in some way that is fundamentally similar to mine..

I wouldn't say that "everyone else on the spectrum really thinks in some way that is fundamentally similar to mine." What we do have in common is the common experience of being neurologically freaky -- albeit in possibly very different ways -- to a sufficient degree to cause us significant social difficulties. But there is more overall neurological variation among autistic people than there is difference between us and NT's.

Whale_Tuune wrote:
Neurodiversity and the idea of "Autistics" as a neurominority assumes that this is the case, but I'm asked to take it on faith, and I'm very selective in general about what I take on faith.

I think you might be misunderstanding the idea of autistics as a neurominority.


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31 Jan 2021, 4:23 pm

Yeah. There is some sense of solidarity at times on forums like this. I guess that the neurominority/neuromajority stuff just never... felt right. Many people who use it seem to like conflating experiences.

Like I said, the authors I've read in the past all seem to have their own unique takes on what "Autism" is, and no one can agree with one another, which discourages me about the label as a whole.


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31 Jan 2021, 5:24 pm

Whale_Tuune wrote:
Even though I see the disparities in achievement between me and others, I still have difficulty with the idea that my neurology and thinking styles really are that different from other people, or that everyone else on the spectrum really thinks in some way that is fundamentally similar to mine.


Feel the same way. It's like me being the inhabitant of a country. (and i'm lockdown.) but travelers come and go and speak of other lands, but you can never visit and see what they see. so you never gain that wide open perspective of cross cultural comparisons. you only know what you know. your mind. your territory. your ways. your mental landscape. your perspective. that's all you have to go by. That's all you can trust. mentally labelled as different. only later can we deeply and profoundly accept that analysis. But then its normally too late. We all grown up. Hard lessons have been learnt. We were different and we didn't know it. We assumed everybody was like us. like ourselves. A naive but all too common mistake. life dictates we attempt to cross those mental borders, travel to other countries and gain inside information, but we're prisoners of our own reality, everything outside of us is only theoretical, and abstract notions will easily take secondary position to our immediate sensations.


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01 Feb 2021, 10:53 pm

It's like saying everyone with glasses is "a little blind."


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