autism supremacy is a need

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Asperger's Syndrome is a disability for those disabled by it. All I'm seeking is that those disabled by it get the services they need if they do not already have services utilizing better approaches. "Aspie" is a subscribed political social mind frame and focuses on their differences in a world of diversity and calls everyone else the N.T's. A label is for reasons of disorder and to get help and if you don't need help I must only wonder why the trouble making. Someone might also have similarities or feel they fit in with a disorder label. Or it might be a philosophical differences on perceiving what a disability is. In what I did where I live took allot of work and allot of bravery. It was aspies who attacked it because of their social insecurities and what I would considered hatred. They said my mom brought me around town for others to feel sorry for me. Meanwhile they went to college and do much better then I do. While there leader Ari goes up against isolation advocacy in context to autism. I wonder about these kinds of folks and do not at all trust them nor am I gullible to be on their side because of some kind of false belief the world hates me because of a prenatal test potential.

What I figure is you folks that call themselves aspies at times and pride people are not always right or in the best interest of myself and others. For the sake of your pride you will confront good efforts. For the sake of the ego and the identity of a disorder label others will cause social division that is not conducive the most beneficial changes. I think the agenda is quite clear and some of the political pride people are going to be confronted less you back off. What I do for instance is not a freak show it's inclusion civil rights and is hope. You have your hope and so do others that are able to goto college and succeed. Some of them folks go well out of their way to limit the expressions of efforts that seek to help those who are really disabled.

Ci

I think you need to see a psychiatrist.

Serously.

Yeah right. I've talked to people in the developmental disability service field about the issues and they agree the abortion issues don't mix with other issues. Tax-payers don't at all enjoy being guilted into these things. I think a psychiatrist would also agree but then it would just be a conspiracy in the minds in some of the field of psychiatry against the pride people? Ive seen that as well online the anti-psychiatry in context to autism politics. According to a PHD Harvard graduate and autism specialist I have no mental illness myself. Not to say others who have such disabilities are any lessor then I or you for instance. Autism can be diagnosed by a psychiatrist but is not a chemical imbalance for instance.

The political issues are real and the pride trouble makers will be dealt with. The ASAN group for instance is one of the worse. Individuals mouthing off online are really not a big problem originally. I don't think people take it to seriously but as pride groups combine issues it's more and more a sensitive issue. With regards to you however I think of the likes of you as something very much different then me. You can call it aspie if you want but ultimately it is not the root to the major political problem pride groups involved in abortion issues have created. The issue can in no way be resolved by me. It is the worst disability public relations disaster in recent years and calling others Nazi's like some do won't fix the issue.

Can't be bothered arguing with you......................................

well i think you have fundamentally misunderstood my point so i am going to re-explain to you and answer your questions. First of all generalizations are necessary because to make a large movement work you have to understand the cumulative impact on ALL autistic people. I think that to save time i will concentrate on autistic people at an individual level but NTs in a general way because they really are all the same anyway. i have observed that they all have similar personalities and they all treat autistic people the same way. I think you have made a big mistake in trusting NTs and their big organizations. When they start to turn against you and they abuse you and take everything away you might change your opinion. When parents kill their autistic children people DO condone it, sentences for those parents are very short, many parents told sympathetic juries that their child was a bore and that they just had to kill him because of that. I never disagreed that autism was not genetic, and I have always said that people trying to cure us were whack-jobs. I can indeed prove that there is legislation to oppress autistic people. The jrc cases alone should be enough to convince anybody that the government has it in for autistics. Autistic people have been tortured and killed there for years and the government has condoned it and even supported it the whole time. You really think that NTs love you don't you? Well why do they make fun of us and kill and torture us if they love us so much? why do they prevent us from getting jobs and families? living in their fancy neighborhoods? going to their schools? Luckily you do admit that you would be gassed first if there were nazis. can't argue with you on that one we would all be first. I have many articles on my site about what to do with NTs, but the gist of it i that we must train them to be like us and if they can't be we will send them to special correctional facilities where they will learn to be autistic.

one thubs up for this one

Your not going to get anywhere with fighting fire with fire with false beliefs because the fire at times you see in others is simply not true. The vindictive attitude is going to be a failure. I've not seen it succeed yet. The idea of thinking people with autism are a freak show simply stems form the idea that people with autism are bullied. If people with autism disagree with one another the ones that tend to resort to being the victims of the world around them are simply going to say those things. The more one pins themselves against the world around them and believes without proof how much they are disliked, hated and so on without evidence the more the lost cause it becomes. That's why autism superiority tends to be to radical to achieve it's goals. The more radical it becomes the more belief without proof and the more blame to the world around them. To much focus on a disorder label, not enough self-acceptance and not enough evidence but a belief in what is not proven.

Self-resilience seems to be better off. Though can be confused with this notion of superiority. What this notion does is proclaims one is better. It is obvious that such a belief is not needed but ultimately just being as one is and being more positive tends to be the solution. If you could leave others out of it who have autism when you speak of autism superiority so as to represent yourself and those who believe only as you do that would be great. It would create less problems. Please do not claim I am superior for simply being born as I was.

I don't see arguing here as wining or losing against a particular person. You and I are very different people. The only shared commonality is a concept of an autism spectrum. I also don't think you are a freak show. But realize there are people who are not mentally well and who also do have autism. It doesn't make them freaks. This is an idea of self-perception others think that others think of them.

ci, you often claim to be an ambassador of the autistic people yet many autistic people disagree with you. its ironic that i want to satisfy people with a promise of good jobs instead of menial candle making and they like that?

I am not an ambassador but speak my own mind and a vast majority of people with autism don't know either you or I. I purposely disagree with autism pride and certain groups to speak my mind which is not a crime nor should be shunned unless they would in turn be shunned from those that think like me. No one is going to hand you a $14 an hour job as you have demanded I do for others especially when I myself do not get paid. Making candles is an option that others enjoy and is doing well in a major recession. We will get into other things. I'd like to see you do better then what I've done with a $4,000 federal grant. It's then I will take your criticism seriously.

aspie48 I am going to send you a private message. I don't want to type it here.

well i am 15 years old so i doubt i could legally get paid or accept grants. but i will tell you what i have done at my age i have distributed hacking software for free to all my autistic friends and i have had parties at my house for them. I have in effect made a self supporting hacking community. we watch each others backs and enjoy each others company.

Let's play a word game:

all generalizations are necessary because to make a large movement work you have to understand the cumulative impact on ALL Aryan people. I think that to save time i will concentrate on Aryan people at an individual level but Jews in a general way because they really are all the same anyway. i have observed that they (Jews) all have similar personalities and they all treat Aryan people the same way. I think you have made a big mistake in trusting Jews and their big organizations. When they start to turn against you and they abuse you and take everything away you might change your opinion. When parents kill their Aryan children people DO condone it, sentences for those parents are very short, many parents told sympathetic juries that their child was a bore and that they just had to kill him because of that. I never disagreed that Aryanism was not genetic, and I have always said that people trying to cure us were whack-jobs. I can indeed prove that there is legislation to oppress Aryan people. The jrc cases alone should be enough to convince anybody that the ZOG has it in for Aryans. Aryan people have been tortured and killed there for years and the ZOG has condoned it and even supported it the whole time. You really think that Jews love you don't you? Well why do they make fun of us and kill and torture us if they love us so much? why do they prevent us from getting jobs and families? living in their fancy neighborhoods? going to their schools? Luckily you do admit that you would be gassed first if there were nazis. can't argue with you on that one we would all be first. I have many articles on my site about what to do with , but the gist of it i that we must train them to be like us and if they can't be we will send them to concentration camps where they will learn to be Aryan.

Sounds like you have a question to answer. Funny how you can replace words like that and still get the same feel. I guess supremacy is the correct word.

Hatemonger. Your ideas are never right now and never were in the past, regardless of who it is.

And nice downplay of me using my own experiences to prove you wrong about the mental hospital. Your comment on that is?

well twisting my words is amusing but it won't prove anything because you changed the whole meaning. I am not raising hate I am trying to get people to see the future and what needs to be done in a reasonable manner.

Yes you are. Your entire notion is based on it. You took an entire group of people and branded them all as enemies because of something that happened in your life. There is no amount of typing I can do to convince yourself that at least some NTs have interests in making people with autism succeed. But you do not care and like to live in your own little dream world where ALL NTs are performing malice on people with autism. It must make you feel great.

I am sick and tired of Autism Speaks and allowing only NTs to speak. I do not really like ASAN since I feel a joint NT-autistic relationship needs to be done for the best. And I especially do not like you getting away with faux-Nazism.

Last edited by HerrGrimm on 28 Jun 2011, 3:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Well you just said my opinion exactly, NTs always oppress us and ASAN trying to reason with them is pointless, so what are you going to do sir?