They took down the Autism Speaks Interview on AFF!

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It's this, and as near as I can tell it's consistently this sort of thing - that seems to sprout up when you post.
It's the series of implications and insinuations, the bickering, the taunting, the hissing, the tantrums, the picking away at members' well-being.
Are there any posts you've made to WP where you just join in a discussion and continue like most other members do?

There is a massive amount of evidence that this is not a false accusation and you know it. A quick glance at you posts on AFF alone (all of which I have saved) provides the evidence.

I have been advised to take legal action multiple times, and all evidence has been properly itemized. I see no reason to do this at this point, unless you persist, in which case, you are correct, I will be obligated to do something about it.

I'm sure Alex is au fait with the laws regarding websites, and his rules and TOS should reflect that. And if he isn't he should be.

All beside the point though. Which is that people here are talking about (and attacking) each other and not talking about autism politics, activism or media representation. This needs to stop. Or be conducted through a medium that is not Wrong Planet.

I would ask you all to read and respect this, or be prepared to be removed.

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This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not.

Then you are under obligation to make a formal complaint to your local law enforcement agency, which I suggest you do, however, and publication of these, or similar accusations, true or false (and anyone worth a darn can see how genuinely malicious they are) , constitutes civil defamation, substantially reinforced by any reluctance on your part to approach law enforcement with your supposed concerns.

There is no legal route to whipping up a lynch mob by internet. That, in itself, on this scale, constitutes a form of undeniable criminal harassment.

I suggest you delete your malicious accusations and call the cops as is the law.

Quite a few before Gedrene started harrying me everry time I tried to post at all...perhaps you should have checked, but then jumping to conclusions is so much quicker and easier, isn't it?

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Report them to a mod. If you take it upon yourself to get personal in return then you put your membership at risk... if it means anything to you.

Oh I did check, believe me. I was following it word by word as it happened and all I saw was more acid spraying from you. Gedrene was simply asking you questions. It doesn't take a genius to realise he questions something because he wants an answer.
As I remember, you also said you wouldn't post here again until you'd received an apology - yet here you are again, brightening our dull day.

I totally agree with you Moog (except that, in real terms it is unlikely that Alex has ANY idea of the the degree of legal exposure TM has created here, as in, it's unlikely he even has a clue what has been posted yet - but, nonetheless, as long as it remains on his site he is liable, and, worse than that, there could be more than one plaintiff).

But this, today, is just about Holman trying to find a way to throw a tantrum and do me as much damage as possible because I will not pretend to go along with him...it is only in response to his goading and false accusations I posted at all...

The reason why it got this far is that:


Has been allowed to become so commonplace that it is an integral part of the dynamic of this forum. Very little else happens here...

Anyone who plays up to vermontsavant (who is not bad, just gullible and easily lead) is exonerated, anyone who doesn't is blamed...regardless of what actually happened, that's why I no longer see any point in posting seriously here. Whatever you say, someone is going to turn it into a personal, passive aggressive, endless circular argument FULL of sly versions of all the above.

I posted here to defend myself because Holman was making false accusations, irrelevant, off topic without even the slightest discouragement....and because I would not submit to his malice the false accusations have escalated beyond the realms of reason...but I do not think anyone would have got away with even the very first false accusations on any other forum. Nor should they have.

I didn't get personal in return, I just stopped posting...it seemed simpler for everyone, but that is not a licence for Holman to post false and unlawful defamation without censure or hindrance.

Incidentally, I should not HAVE to report, or even check for, the kind of unprovoked attacks Holman was making in the past few days, somebody should have been stopping him abusing the forum to make attacks like that on anybody...not just me.

...and the same goes for Gedrene's nonsense. Which was just ignored whoever I reported it to...

Last edited by Zeraeph on 08 Nov 2011, 2:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

If you really checked - the above is just bending the facts to breaking point because you have a knife into me, and if you have a knife into me *THAT* big there isn't much point in me saying anything to you is there? You will just turn it inside out to suit yourself anyway...

The correct and just is always ridiculous when it harms your ego Zeraeph.


Indeed... and since you have done these things and are pretty much doing them right now with psychotic disregard for the feelings of others I would say that you don't have a leg to stand on.


Alex Holman wouldn't delete it if he thought about it I am sure, because it threatens you with the truth of people knowing the bad you do and that makes you squirm. I didn't self-sanctimoniously ask for Alex Holman to delete the posts involving you saying I was involved in a d*ck measuring contest or that I somehow loved you insanely because it's ovious that they are complete garbage spouted by a person know for producing bitter and compulsive lies. But Tambourine-Man's accusation was the truth, and you know what.

That's what fills you with dread, that people will not believe you any longer when they realize how monstrous your actions have been.

You really do come out with some arrogant, self-important codswallop...

How amazing. When I call out people for doing things wrong only then do they call me names. Before then they see me as good, but when their ego is involved they lie and hate. Such self-righteousness...

You never "call people out for doing something wrong" - like Holman, but in your own, individual, way, you "call people out" for not submitting their will to your whims and saying whatever you want them to say. It's all down to your pathological need to control everything in sight...nothing else...

Right, don't start this again.

Zaeraph, if you think you have a court case, best take it there then.

You've had the opportunity to defend yourself, so I hope you made the best of it.

If you want the website to be 'total surveillance', ask Alex. I've already done my utmost to petition for adequate moderator resources.

If you don't want to do things by the book, that's your decision.