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24 Dec 2008, 7:19 pm

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From everything I've read on the web, pro-cure members of WP don't last very long on the forum - and however civilised they may be, end up being banned before they can express very much of their views.


All members get banned for the same reason, that they do not and then will not follow the rules of WP.net.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt12459.html

we are equal opportunity moderators.

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24 Dec 2008, 7:54 pm

Wrong Planet was covered in MIT's Media Lab course 'Techno-Identity' (MAS.961) in 2006 and is on the syllabus of UCLA's 'Autism and Asperger Syndrome in the Media: Through the eyes of individuals with Autism' (Education 88S). Wrong Planet comes up in the special education curriculum of many universities in the United States. A page is dedicated to Wrong Planet and its founder in a textbook used by various Universities such as the University of Virginia and George Mason University for introduction to special education courses.

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25 Dec 2008, 8:02 am

sinsboldly wrote:
Wrong Planet was covered in MIT's Media Lab course 'Techno-Identity' (MAS.961) in 2006 and is on the syllabus of UCLA's 'Autism and Asperger Syndrome in the Media: Through the eyes of individuals with Autism' (Education 88S). Wrong Planet comes up in the special education curriculum of many universities in the United States. A page is dedicated to Wrong Planet and its founder in a textbook used by various Universities such as the University of Virginia and George Mason University for introduction to special education courses.

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What does this prove... :?:



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25 Dec 2008, 1:46 pm

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sinsboldly wrote:
Wrong Planet was covered in MIT's Media Lab course 'Techno-Identity' (MAS.961) in 2006 and is on the syllabus of UCLA's 'Autism and Asperger Syndrome in the Media: Through the eyes of individuals with Autism' (Education 88S). Wrong Planet comes up in the special education curriculum of many universities in the United States. A page is dedicated to Wrong Planet and its founder in a textbook used by various Universities such as the University of Virginia and George Mason University for introduction to special education courses.

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Proof? No. no proof at all

Just a reminder that over the Holiday break lots of students come into WP.net and delve into the 'Autistic mind'.

Merle

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25 Dec 2008, 5:46 pm

sinsboldly wrote:
DeanFoley wrote:
sinsboldly wrote:
Wrong Planet was covered in MIT's Media Lab course 'Techno-Identity' (MAS.961) in 2006 and is on the syllabus of UCLA's 'Autism and Asperger Syndrome in the Media: Through the eyes of individuals with Autism' (Education 88S). Wrong Planet comes up in the special education curriculum of many universities in the United States. A page is dedicated to Wrong Planet and its founder in a textbook used by various Universities such as the University of Virginia and George Mason University for introduction to special education courses.

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pwned


totally!

Merle


What does this prove... :?:


Proof? No. no proof at all

Just a reminder that over the Holiday break lots of students come into WP.net and delve into the 'Autistic mind'.

Merle


Okay, a rephrase then.

What does this have to do with anything on this thread?



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27 Dec 2008, 7:57 am

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Hello.

I just want to tell you all to leave the pro-cure groups alone.

You have every right to have your opinion, but wouldn't you rather have good social skills than other positive aspie traits, in order to get married and have a family? Sure, aspies can do that, but it's a lot trickier (the troubling challenge of finding someone plus all the years God has cost me of having to learn social skills, I don't even feel like learning). Getting married and having a family is the MOST important thing I want to do in my entire lifetime, aside from everything else. What do you say?


Why do you assume I want to have a family? The thought of it only makes me feel sick.


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28 Dec 2008, 11:32 am

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Hello.

I just want to tell you all to leave the pro-cure groups alone.

You have every right to have your opinion, but wouldn't you rather have good social skills than other positive aspie traits, in order to get married and have a family? Sure, aspies can do that, but it's a lot trickier (the troubling challenge of finding someone plus all the years God has cost me of having to learn social skills, I don't even feel like learning). Getting married and having a family is the MOST important thing I want to do in my entire lifetime, aside from everything else. What do you say?


Future of Earth is more important than your desires.

Greedy, power-hungry NT;s are screwing the world's ecosystems and perpetuating a social system of huge inequalities and suffering. That is because NT;s are adapted to stone age level society.

Most inventions which have changed our lives and made them better were made by socially inept eccentric scientists and inventors, people who were apart from their communities.

Edison, Tesla, Babitt, Gates...

Yes, I am all in favor of genetic tailoring, but it should be directing at making THEM more like US, not US more like THEM.

Take away all inventors, all creative engineers, all scientists, and what you get behind is a society which will stagnate.

It will be a new dark age if you remove aspergers from the equation.



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29 Dec 2008, 9:56 am

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The Neo cortex is new, the species has gone through many steps of larger and larger brain, and how does that happen?


It's ironic you ask this since the evolutionary drive for a bigger brain in humans was guided by the increased advantage that came with having better social abilities. You can read back a page or two to find a longer post by me on the subject, or just take any anthropology class.


Not quite. If this was so, why do the social abilities of NTs look indistinguishable from those of apes? Apes too make war, set up dominance hierarchies and all the rest of the NT social traits. It seems to me you only need a chimp-sized brain to accomplish this..

To Rdos:
I think I will not argue with a person who equals social abilities of human beings with the social abilities of apes. I think our positions are entirely different and based on different assumptions.
If his initial assumption is that social abilities of human beings are at the same level as the ones of the apes, then I leave it for the apes to have further debates with him.
I am sorry DeanFoley you spent so much time on this useless conversation. Don't you see it is a waste of time and you are basically trying to prove to him that NTs are higher developed then monkeys? Do you really have to prove it ?



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29 Dec 2008, 10:13 am

For a moment, I thought there was going to be an over-dramatic "LEAVE CUREBIES ALONE!!" video on youtube to accompany the thread :D



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29 Dec 2008, 10:07 pm

I do not want to be cured. :lol: :lol: I like being an :alien: :cyclopsani: .

These groups want to "force" their ideas about cures down our throat. :eew:


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29 Dec 2008, 10:19 pm

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I do not want to be cured. :lol: :lol: I like being an :alien: :cyclopsani: .

These groups want to "force" their ideas about cures down our throat. :eew:
What "groups" are you referring to. Be specific.



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29 Dec 2008, 10:37 pm

Bataar I hope you have been paying attention. The thread was about "pro-cure" groups.
As far as I am concerned they are "snake oil sales people." To cure one of AS a "brain doctor" would have to "rewire" my brain.
These people are deceiving themselves and others. These are the new "Nazis". They need to be "watched".
We need to protect ourselves from their "dangerous" doctrine.


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30 Dec 2008, 1:50 pm

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Bataar I hope you have been paying attention. The thread was about "pro-cure" groups.
As far as I am concerned they are "snake oil sales people." To cure one of AS a "brain doctor" would have to "rewire" my brain.
These people are deceiving themselves and others. These are the new "Nazis". They need to be "watched".
We need to protect ourselves from their "dangerous" doctrine.

As far as I could tell, "pro cure groups" was just an expression for people, like myself, who would like a cure to be made available. If there are some ultra secret groups who's master plan of world domination requires the capture and forced torture and cure of aspies and autistics, then, I'd be against that, but nothing would make me happier than a cure to be made available.



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30 Dec 2008, 2:29 pm

No. I wouldn't rather have good social skills than other positive aspie traits. I CAN Get married and have a family, thank you very much. I'm engaged to a lovely Aspie. I think you make those claims based on the assumption that our prospective mates aren't on the spectrum.



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30 Dec 2008, 5:43 pm

I'd rather have good social skills and positive aspie traits.



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30 Dec 2008, 6:54 pm

Why is there so much focus just on the social aspect? Other than poor social skills, at least for me, there are many more disadvantages. Aspie interests, for example. I'd rather have the ability to take a mild/medium interest in a lot of things/subjects rather than have very intense interests in only a handful of things. Part of that, for me, is that my "Aspie Interests" are things I can rarely participate in. Imagine if your biggest interest was something you could only participate in a few times a year at most. My other main interest, I can only participate in once a month. This makes it very hard for me to learn new things because if I'm not hardcore interested, the information doesn't stick. This makes it very hard for me to get advanced at work.

I also have a high distaste for my heightened level of sensitivity. Having to wear sunglasses whenever I go outside during the daylight, even when it's cloudy out, hating going to formal events because the clothing required feels like sandpaper. The extreme discomfort when a schedule changes or my routine is disrupted. Having something planned that doesn't work out which leads me to be unable to think of alternative ideas/solutions. There are a lot more negatives than just "not being able to socialize." If that is the only one you experience, consider yourself blessed.