Medical Marijuana anyone?
Is anyone else besides sinsboldly getting relief from medical marijuana? And for sinsboldly: do edibles have different effect ? My friend is giving son 1/8 of a cookie and he is maybe 130lbs. What would 1/8 of cookie do for you. Would that be like taking 2 hits for u? Or would u be sedated?
i have my medical card and use cannabis in many forms.
the thing that bothers me about perspectives on cannabis from non-users is that they don't understand or appreciate that there is a huge variety of strains with different effects and different levels of potency and different people are affected differently.
as far as edibles for a young child, don't buy them. buy cannabutter or make your own and make the edibles at home, yourself. you can also just put a little of the butter with other foods without putting too much effort into a whole new recipe. even cannabutter on toast will do, just make sure you know how much you're using and how strong it is. i've had a good amount of experience both making them myself and getting them from dispensaries and there is an enormous range of possibilities. depending on how much thc is in the food item, a small piece of a cookie could floor a grown-up or it could take several whole cookies just to "feel high."
and yes, feeling high is the goal. it's more complicated than that, and there's a lot to be said against overdoing it, but denying that basic fact is just dumb. that said, there's no need to keep a child "loaded" like we often do with behavior modifying drugs with brand-name stamps. start small and see what works for your situation. if it doesn't work, or doesn't work without completely doping him, you should stop and try something else.
"apathy" is an issue for a lot of cannabis users. generally, it's an issue we had sober, too. i find my own apathy is much more often a coping method to deal with not being able to feel apathetic toward specific situations. i deal with not being able to solve every problem i see by actively not caring about any of those problems, including the ones i can and should be working on. smoke a bit of a light sativa, and suddenly i can organize myself well enough to list off what i can do vs can't, should vs shouldn't, and prioritize. yes, it's difficult for me to motivate myself to execute such a plan, but that's the same for me no matter what.
i hope you find all of this partial-information helpful. there's not a lot of reliable information out there about cannabis right now. you could try finding a doctor you could talk to about it without getting a card. don't trust anyone who gives you a straight up-or-down answer.
depending on your child's interests, it could even end up being educational and a lot of fun to grow a plant or two in your own home.
I did read an article from a mom. She said it worked wonders, then they ran out of that line, gave her another, and it did not work.
It is not one thing, even when it is it varies with cultivation, there is no control yet. In California I would say find lines that will stay in production, and test them. Expect a range of results.
Even with a constant production, people react differently, some go to sleep, some melt into the sofa, others get energetic, others get hungry.
Just in the main families, Indica and Sativa, there are many lines, each another world, and each a mix of chemicals that change. THC is the main product, but comes from percursers, and has decay products. Heat, cold, oxidation affects it.
Small lots, sealed, Seal a meal, then kept frozen is the more stable.
You might Google Autism-MJ, find the article I mentioned, but finding what you seek most likely will come from other moms.
This is an untested product, perhaps THC content, but that might not be all, for the other products also have an effect.
It is an industry without standards, selling a wide range of drugs under one name.
Believe none of what you hear, half of what you see. Test in minor doses, try several, give each a few weeks, and maybe you will find the right mix.
It does seem to hold promise, and nothing else seems to work. It is still experimental, and beyond what could be ethically lab tested.
Mom Science has discovered many things, we can only offer best wishes and hope.
My grandmother gave me Devil's Seed and coffee in my milk, it worked.
I take a toke or two and the laundry gets done and folded back into the drawers, the dishes get washed, dinner gets started, the vacuuming gets done, the baseboards wiped down, the house gets put to rights and I eat my dinner and that brings me back down and I am pleasantly tired ready for bed, and a good nights sleep .
so sue me.

ha! i get far more done as well.
it works for me, and it may not work for others. just like most things it affects everyone differently.
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I've been around some people who smoke a small bit of marijuana once a night, for medicinal reasons. I have not seen any of these traits you describe from these people over the last 3 years (or ever, actually). I've also never seen a significant enough change in their behavior to be able to tell when they're high or not. I do no drugs (didn't even have my first drink until 23!), and these people are two or three times more productive than I am, at twice my age (they actually get so much more stuff than me done that I feel guilty for doing so little!). There is absolutely no trace of your description in these folks.
I don't think everyone is going to be the same while using a drug, that is for sure. Just a lot of variables to factor in.
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My experience with medical marijuana was taking it--illegally--after my daughter died.
I was grieving and wanted some relief.
I found that at first I felt so much better. I just took one puff, and I felt a euphoria, a calmness and happiness.
But then, after about a week, that feeling started to get weaker and I started smoking more to get back the good feeling.
(from what I know, the edibles are even stronger than the smoke)
And, I couldn't. What I found was that I experienced more mental confusion and tiredness that got worse and worse until I stopped altogether.
About 4 months later I tried again.
This time I tried to smoke the very least amount, that would give me a good feeling but no mental confusion. I even tried making a tincture with it. I couldn't find the least amount that didn't cause some mental confusion.
I totally understand your need to find some help for your child other than the pharamaceutical medicine that is damaging to his liver. However, I don't think marijuana is a positive route. With long term, chronic use, it does cause brain damage. I'm talking consistent use between 10-20 years. You can do the research.
From my experience, the mental confusion it causes just would not be good for a child.
Have you tried to see a holistic medical practitioner? What about a DAN doctor to treat your son's dangerous/debilitating conditions?
If you can get past the name: Defeat Autism Now, you might find a good practitioner who understands autism and will help you find natural means to help your child.
I would strongly recommend that route before turning to cannibis.
Please let us know if you find something that works.
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kills his liver? Get him on it. I'm pretty sure I'm on the spectrum, and smoking a bit of pot actually enhances my social intuitions to a certain degree. Just be careful with the dose.
It has always helped me with my social anxiety and I seem to be able to be touched without feeling uncomfortable when using it. I hope NY state will legalize it for medical purposes.
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In my opinion it is a disaster waiting to happen. There may be something in that plant that may be useful for medicinal purposes. Okay that may be a decent argument, however try to extract that chemical from the plant and leave the rest of it out.
There aren't enough studies as to the long term effects of that drug.
There aren't enough studies as to the long term effects of that drug.
THIS.
I'm on three prescription drugs (namely clonazepam, fluoxetine and trazodone), which I need to treat depression, anxiety, panic attacks and severe insomnia. Needless to say, I'd rather not have to take them, but I need them, and I really don't know about their long-term effects. I'm considering medijuana, but it's not such an innocent drug, either. If they really took the time to study the plant and its medicinal properties, and isolate the medicinal components of it from the damaging ones, it would be great.
it would take 1500 pounds of maryjane smoked within 15 minutes to overdose yet its a schedule 1 drug even though all other schedule 1 drugs you can overdose in less than 1 gram and the DEA(one of the most unconstitutional agencies) claims it has no medicinal value even though it can help cure over 5000 different ailments in which legally your options are medications whose side effects are usually worse than what you trying to fix in the 1st place requiring you too have to get more medications to counter those nasty side effects and these medications also have side effects do you see the circle they trap you in when marijuana can get it done the first time and legal medications dont even work for everyone so if those in the pharmaceutical business weren't greedy it would be better to provide marijuana and the hemp plant has stronger fibers making superior clothing, rope, and paper(Declaration of Independence is written on hemp paper) it could provde an environment healthy and virtually unlimited fuel source to replace fossil fuels and several of America's forefathees grew and smoked cannabis sativa
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it would take 1500 pounds of maryjane smoked within 15 minutes to overdose yet its a schedule 1 drug even though all other schedule 1 drugs you can overdose in less than 1 gram and the DEA(one of the most unconstitutional agencies) claims it has no medicinal value even though it can help cure over 5000 different ailments in which legally your options are medications whose side effects are usually worse than what you trying to fix in the 1st place requiring you too have to get more medications to counter those nasty side effects and these medications also have side effects do you see the circle they trap you in when marijuana can get it done the first time and legal medications dont even work for everyone so if those in the pharmaceutical business weren't greedy it would be better to provide marijuana and the hemp plant has stronger fibers making superior clothing, rope, and paper(Declaration of Independence is written on hemp paper) it could provde an environment healthy and virtually unlimited fuel source to replace fossil fuels and several of America's forefathees grew and smoked cannabis sativa
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Reminder: the OP's question here was use of marijuana for a CHILD. That is the point, not the general merits of pot.
I'm all for making marijuana legal, growing hemp for all kinds of purposes, and for using it medically and recreationally for ADULTS.
However, the THC in the plant is mind altering. It can cause hallucinations, and it isn't negative-side-effect-free. Let's not kid ourselves.
I think it would be absolutely irresponsible to use marijuana to treat a child's conditions because of the effect is has on cognition.
It effects memory, the ability to learn, reflexes, etc...
For regular use, it is not for children.
Period.
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pharmaceuticals kill about 200000 people a year in the US. That's taken as prescribed for the intended condition. Cannabis has no history of killing people like this. I use it regularly and know many people who do, both aspies types and NT types. The idea that it makes people apathetic is not my personal experience or what I know in many very industrious and busy pot smokers. For me it is pleasantly stimulating and makes me want to do stuff and maintain a positive attitude toward the future. I can honestly say use of it for my conditions has probably saved my life - at the very least by keeping me away from pharmaceuticals (also alcohol) that have the above mentioned track record.
Everyones biology is different. If docs dish out the pharmaceuticals on a trial and error basis why not try this herbal remedy and see how it does for your son. It might help you too.
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