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Should Advocacy Stop Calling People Ignorant When Applicable?.
No. Name call to get attention no matter the results. 22%  22%  [ 4 ]
Yes. Respect people as human beings that just need to be informed. 78%  78%  [ 14 ]
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04 Feb 2011, 12:49 pm

It would be imposable to God win this thread, because there are as many different opinions about the things mentioned as there are WrongPlanet members. You support Autism Speaks and I don't. One person who posted in this thread is Pro-Choice and I'm Pro-Life. Some people are strong supporters of ASAN and others would rather just do for themselves, including me. You're trying to win against everybody who posts in your threads.

We're all different. The fact that we're all different is not the big deal that you're making it out to be.


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04 Feb 2011, 1:21 pm

The post I've made the past month have been discovery posts to get the the bottom line. In-sighting reaction, debate and figuring out minds and positions. It comes down to ideology, pride (which is seldom without bias) and believing things that are true or not true. I look at the autism politics as quite the world of great conflict and I am so very glad I understand enough about it to educate others to keep clear of it and it's half truths and political games. It's been interesting but as a whole the autism community is far to dysfunctional it would seem to create positive change compared to the DD community as a whole.

I've achieved what I wanted to in this interaction.

What is important for individuals in their lives is that neither ASAN or Autism Speaks defines the political makeup of the community, mainstream ideology with it's interference but that of the law. That can be somewhat circular reasoning. The individual must be empowered over that of groups which have no democratic model that are essentially dictatorships. Same is true for ASAN as with Autism Speaks.


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04 Feb 2011, 3:14 pm

here's the solution. palin for president 2012.she's pro life has a child with a developmental disorder.she not afiliated with any formal advocacy organization and i would hope she would treat ari ne eman better than obama.there you go sarah palin 2012



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04 Feb 2011, 3:18 pm

Obama appointed Ari and has removed offensive language from the system for people with cognitive disabilities. The solutions don't come down to politicians or even self-advocates. The solutions are most governed by the people. Innovation creates solutions and my job is to work with the public regardless of ideology.

I have no trust and faith in anybody but myself unless they prove otherwise. I suggest others do the same when it comes to quality of life, hope and inclusion. As far as abortion politics go ahead and join the abortion groups but they don't mix with other issues as they risk quality of life and hope.

I hope you folks can figure out how to get along. I'm doing my own thing and will call upon differing organizations as needed. Yet never depend on them.


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04 Feb 2011, 4:17 pm

i just checked pat bauer 5 minutes ago and unless she has not updated according to patriciaebauer.com ari's nonanation is still being blocked.we could both be wrong her website is slow to update sometimes



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04 Feb 2011, 5:20 pm

I think it has already been accepted. Yet his advocacy shows clear incompetence and ideological biases while in this position. He is a great advocate for himself. Yet despite having the say in the organization he founded he does not speak for me or many others. We need more people with autism to be nominated that will create some balance. ASAN is reckless.


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04 Feb 2011, 6:40 pm

you may well be right.i dont follow advocacy organizations and pat bauer is always slow to update.personaly i have no strong feelings on ari or asan.



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04 Feb 2011, 6:45 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnPB76mjxI&feature=related[/youtube]


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04 Feb 2011, 8:26 pm

Expecting a semi-illiterate person to search for documentations is like expecting a legally blind person to paint a masterpiece.


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04 Feb 2011, 8:42 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
here's the solution. palin for president 2012.she's pro life has a child with a developmental disorder.she not afiliated with any formal advocacy organization and i would hope she would treat ari ne eman better than obama.there you go sarah palin 2012


Sarah Palin uses her son with Down syndrome as a political tool and is a despicable person all around. Not just no, but HELL NO.


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04 Feb 2011, 9:32 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Expecting a semi-illiterate person to search for documentations is like expecting a legally blind person to paint a masterpiece.


And you are smarter then both of course?


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05 Feb 2011, 2:09 am

Delirium wrote:
vermontsavant wrote:
here's the solution. palin for president 2012.she's pro life has a child with a developmental disorder.she not afiliated with any formal advocacy organization and i would hope she would treat ari ne eman better than obama.there you go sarah palin 2012


Sarah Palin uses her son with Down syndrome as a political tool and is a despicable person all around. Not just no, but HELL NO.
well im not a huge sarah palin fan personaly and i have not been into politics for a while.however she's better than the liberal altrenative.part of the reason the left has alienated so many is that they would call people they dont even know despicable.the liberals use just about every disabled person in general a political tool 24/7 anyway



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05 Feb 2011, 2:10 am

What is considered using?


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05 Feb 2011, 2:48 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
Expecting a semi-illiterate person to search for documentations is like expecting a legally blind person to paint a masterpiece.


That has happened.


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05 Feb 2011, 3:10 am

well what i meant by using was political,like what delerium accused sarah palin of doing,nothing more than that,i was just saying right is no worse than the left.im not sure if i was called semi iliterate,im not sure if that comment was at me or not.im quite literate actualy.im actualy more of a bill buckley conservative than a tea party sarah palin type.i never claimed to have done extensive research on the ari ne eman nomination,i dont care for advocates and i only read about it on pat bauer.



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05 Feb 2011, 3:34 am

Typically people who put others down intellectually suffer from an inferiority complex. By putting others down it makes them feel good about themselves in spite of being consider of a developmental disability themselves so the inferior people are considered insulting to them. No specific context was made but I hope they were not making fun of people with intellectual disabilities it would prove another point I have of very high functioning people not being good advocates for those with severe disabilities.

The only thing I know about politics is famous speeches and pop culture.


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