Aspie, Aspergian, Autie... and Autasian?

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My God, shut up. PLEASE, just shut up.

I'm an Aspie, and I've met several other aspies, who are more than capable of doing more things that most autistic people cannot. Like, for a somewhat less recent news article I read(its been a few years) instead of practically letting myself drown or have to have some find me by going "To infinity and beyond!! !" I actually know to f*****g SWIM or start calling for help without someone having to call my name out first. I can drive, feed myself, hold down a well paying full time job(and 2 part timers) as well as attend college full time, dress myself, bathe myself, keep all but my dental hygiene(I always forget to brush my teeth before I head to bed, normally because I'm exhausted from work or homework) I can do my own shopping, count my own change(in fact, I've NEVER gotten incorrect change unless I was giving it up for a donation box by the register) I can hold my own in a relationship(that I want to keep alive that is, otherwise I intentionally sabotage it) I can talk with other people(although I'm a bit shy, but I was also a very sheltered child even before I was diagnosed) keep track of my own appointments by myself, pay my own bills, etcetera.

In fact, in my area (Fort Worth, TX area, although I live 30 miles away from the area in a different town) I've only met 1 aspie who COULDN'T do those things for himself, and he just chose not to cuz daddy, a higher up in Verizon Wireless, sent him a big fat check to keep him going every other week(we're talking thousands of dollars per check, like enough for this guy to eat, sleep, breathe, and live like a king and afford whatever he wanted, aside from REALLY expensive ass cars)

So no, with myself and several others as an example, Aspies are NOT directly under the label of "autistic". I have true "autistic" friends, and they have varying levels of autism, from light(like nearly Aspie like) to SEVERE, like cannot take care of themselves at all(like, their so out of it their parents have to do everything for them, like wipe their ass and the whole 9 yards)

You do realize that autism is a spectrum, right? Asperger's is part of that spectrum.

Of course I realize this.

I know I haven't met ALL the different types of autism, its just, I've met quite a few through support groups and in other aspects of my life, and they've each had a different type of autism. A lot of them were really bad, like I described above. Some of them couldn't learn, some couldn't do math, some couldn't learn English properly(but oddly enough excelled in other languages), some can't write papers, some can't keep their s**t organized. Some have trouble counting money, others have problems counting PERIOD.

Some were Aspies, some were classic autism(as in, what I described before your quote), some were PDD-NOS(atypical autism), some were CDDs, and some were Retts.

Aspies, out of everyone in that group, along with some classic autistics and some PDD-NOSs, are more like non-NTs. We can take care of ourselves sufficiently when given the proper tools and instructions. As opposed to most of the other members of the ASD. We can adapt. In fact, I myself, and another girl that I know, Anna, who is the daughter of a doctor my stepfather works with, are so good at masking these things and taking care of ourselves that we were elected as Peer Mediators in high school, and in college, we actually surprised our English class by announcing that we were(at the time, anyway) a NT couple, which none of the other students had ever suspected us of being NTs(although the couple part was obvious) because of how well we communicated with them and solved our problems together.

So, as an Aspie, it offends me when I tell someone I have Asperger's Syndrome and their like"Oh your autistic....so that means your ret*d, like my cousin's friend (insert name here)......<_< >_><_<*starts to walk away*"

So I say "No, I'm an Aspie, which is PART of the autistic spectrum, but we're so close to normal its an insult to call us autistic.*smile politely*"

/agreed

I am American, I am Quaker, and I am also autistic. Only thing I'm not 100% sure about is if the 'a' in autistic should be capitalized or not.

It's fine and dandy with me if others want to call themselves a pathological concept. However there are two factors at play when you do.

1. Seeking to redefine autism for the sake of self-esteem when all you have is a milder form is at conflict with treatment rights advancements especially when used to confront such rights. Advocate politicians have used this scenario to maliciously harm treatment advancements.

2. Others as awareness grows to the objection also do not want to be called what they consider a defective notion as an identity when it is not politically correct and is considered derogatory.

i always liked idiot savant

Calling someone an idiot obvious is bad but a savant I don't think that is bad.

thats why im vermontsavant not the idiot savant from guilford vermont ha ha ha

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I am autistic (definitely with a lower-case "a").

I'll be just about as happy with "autist", even though that's not in the OED.

To be more specific, I might mention that I am diagnosed with "Asperger's syndrome" (always with a capital "A", an apostrophe and a lower-case "s").

I'm only partially happy with the term "aspie" (which I like to spell with a lower-case "a", so I can use it as a regular word, and derive "aspieness").

I'm oddly happy with "being on the autism spectrum", although I do not "have" an ASC (or ASD).

Implying someone with A.S has full blown autistic disorder is akin to saying a white women with a tan is African American. While both are Americans and share similarities in culture with some more then others they are two entirelly different looking people. Likewise the manifestions of full blown autism differs from that of Asperger's syndrome.

It's like making apples into some kind of orange. Both are things that are etibles and fruits. Yet Autistic Disorder differs strikingly from Asperger's Syndrome. For political purposes people want to say they are the image of more severe autism and say it is not a disability when they really just have a somewhat related pathological term applied to them. What is even more unique about this whole arrangement socially is some of them say the pathological term that relates to classic autism is not a condition or disability. Yet apply the most severe form of it to their spoken idenity in relation which is a stereotype and expect others to also like that.

Tell me what's the agenda?

The worse kinds of political advocacy to confuse people and at times guilt them about the abortion issue so that they may come to resent people who really do need help and not fund programs, services and treatment research due to some political groups very bad public relations strategies.

i would consider AS a serious medical condition not to be trivialized,the fact that other autistic disorders are more serious magnify's the more severe disorders and doesnt trivialize aspergers

I chose Autasian- makes it sound like we have our own continent.

Tell ASAN that who wishes along with least some of their followers to re-define autism for the sake of abortion politics. There are conflicting issues which are simply incompatible with one another.

@CI a couple things.i dont know what the asan has to do with my post second the asan has nothing to do with my anti abortion politics,that goes way back before the asan was even organized and before issues like pre natal testing and disability.i personaly am not religious but my mother came from that old line of boston irish catholic that californians wouldnt ber familiar with.my father was danish and was from seattle and was not religious.my mom came from the boston irish catholic tradition.carol mcnamara was her maiden name.she her self was a high abortion risk because she was adopted and her biological mother was in prison when she was born.for those reasons i was taught to be anti abortion and that pre dates my aspergers dx in 1992.i dont think the asan is redefining autism there just over advocating for the most high functioning.the succeses of people with as only comes from the inclusion of as as a autism spectrum disorder.i was a child in the early 1980's and people like me fell through the cracks and werent sucessfull because in those days there was nothing out there for us.that was temple grandins success was her speech delay and early autism dx so she got the right help at the right time.in the early years people with aspergers were labled schizaphrenic or juvinile delingquents and they sent you some place and threw away the key

ASAN is involved in politics having to do with autism abortion issues specifically. The goal is to deny the right to women to know whether or not a developing life form has a form or potential form of autism in the womb. They have conducted protests relevant to abortion toward the cure movement. Relating is the image and idea of autism in society and that is a strong desire of theirs to re-define. I believe certain issues do not combine as it creates resentment. I have yet to talk to a person that does disagree with that. Organizations should earn trust and not demand it. They should earn respect and not demand people view a disorder a certain way or else it's bigotry unless it's something obvious like people with autism are of the devil.

I think Catholic is interesting but so it Baptist. I have lived in a military family and lived in numerous states. East / West and born near where Obama was born. With regards to mental illness schizophrenia can also combine with ASD just like with individuals without ASD.