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11 Jun 2011, 5:24 pm

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i didnt say ari is not arrogant.when i called you arrogant i was refering to how you talk to people not about your politics.i have no probem with your political view points but how you express them alienates people which will hinder your ability to change minds.i said what i said to make a point to you.the anger from the poster who first called you arrogant came from your expresion of view point not the content of your view point


Vermont we are talking about people that have already alienated good people and themselves. People who are so radicle they will not change their minds. People who are the followers they have used are not the target of alienation. They are the victims of political manipulation and emotional abuse. ASAN there is no other choice at this point but to discontinue it's program. It has politically used up all it can and is self-defeated.


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11 Jun 2011, 5:33 pm

ok fair enough,look i was just trying to make a point,no hard feelings i hope


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11 Jun 2011, 5:35 pm

As time goes by what the other poster said comparatively will be nothing. There will be the time for healing and understanding of that. People will be emotionally pulled in one way and then the other. There is a equilibrium and the illusion of the Nazi's and Bigots will no longer be the center of the world-view(s).

Trust me.. This is for a really good, productive and healthy mind result.


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11 Jun 2011, 5:40 pm

well that was sort of the point,compared to the people who call people nazi or bigots he wasnt that bad and i think your harsh way of expressing viewpoints may have upset him.like i have been trying to tell you not everyone here is militent asan there are plenty of people you could sway if you were more polite


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11 Jun 2011, 5:45 pm

You got to remember the videos are not my point of view. They are creative depictions. In some ways what people have done with autism advocacy has created an addictive world-view altering and ingrained mindset. The Neuro-typicals are to be blamed. They are the evil / bad and we are the victims of them. People who get mad tend to have that mind-set. It's been well conditioned \ programmed in socio-politics.


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11 Jun 2011, 6:02 pm

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You got to remember the videos are not my point of view. They are creative depictions. In some ways what people have done with autism advocacy has created an addictive world-view altering and ingrained mindset. The Neuro-typicals are to be blamed. They are the evil / bad and we are the victims of them. People who get mad tend to have that mind-set. It's been well conditioned \ programmed in socio-politics.
your right people are adicted to a persocution complex and anti n.t mentality,it feels good and is adictive.you have to remember were both sort of old farts,most people here are twenty something talking the way most young people do.the way most people here talk is no diferent than how young people on the generalized disability forums talk.all young people with any disability has a persocution complex.you wont change the minds of young people with aspergers by being rude or coming across as anti aspergers


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11 Jun 2011, 6:07 pm

It's not really anti-Asperger's simply because what manifests here is not at all typical of people with autism. It has guessed itself as a culture but is a political pathology like any other. One that is a very real risk in public relations. Also I am not so much an old fart. I am 30 but tend to be not the type to socially participate in much of anything let alone autism. Their is a certain and real risk that the ideas put forth and which have manifested and altered world-views will effect innocent individuals who tend to be more so fun loving or simply to themselves. Again the videos are intending to create a reaction, intending to provoke thought in certain people of certain kinds of thinking and are not intending to be in result the alternative world-view. Discrimination is real and the tactics of others to resolve discrimination are not the choices of individuals who otherwise are not part of their groups but these extreme groups tend to get the most media.


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11 Jun 2011, 6:14 pm

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It's not really anti-Asperger's simply because what manifests here is not at all typical of people with autism. It has guessed itself as a culture but is a political pathology like any other. One that is a very real risk in public relations. Also I am not so much an old fart. I am 30 but tend to be not the type to socially participate in much of anything let alone autism. Their is a certain and real risk that the ideas put forth and which have manifested and altered world-views will effect innocent individuals who tend to be more so fun loving or simply to themselves. Again the videos are intending to create a reaction, intending to provoke thought in certain people of certain kinds of thinking and are not intending to be in result the alternative world-view. Discrimination is real and the tactics of others to resolve discrimination are not the choices of individuals who otherwise are not part of their groups but these extreme groups tend to get the most media.
i know your not old your younger than me im 36.most people here are 23.im done with online time for the night so ill see you on another post


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11 Jun 2011, 6:14 pm

Bye Bye grandpa :P :D :lol:


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