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22 Jul 2011, 5:19 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXkPUPa5MH8&feature=related[/youtube]


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22 Jul 2011, 6:35 pm

so lets get back on topic.what the hells the point of this thread.this is almost as boring as pride vs cure


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22 Jul 2011, 6:49 pm

This?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dNaZnZZxXA[/youtube]


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22 Jul 2011, 7:08 pm

whats this


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22 Jul 2011, 7:10 pm

Making inclusion a priority in autism awareness advocacy and working together to formulate really good Pr strategies. I am doing a social experimentation where I live called "Humboldt Includes" and thus far it is working.


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22 Jul 2011, 7:22 pm

certainly wont argue with that


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22 Jul 2011, 7:31 pm

I will be seeking larger organization and some popular people supports next year. Here is a PR item that was on the air. It is defining a new kind of industry in the making. A transitional inclusion and quasi civil rights, equality and diversity movement. I think it's compatible with pride, typical self-advocates and the spectrum of Autism Speaks. I was a test rabbit for it and it worked out fine for the beginning and has been successful.

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22 Jul 2011, 7:41 pm

what is its agenda,other than its compatable with everything.there is a lot of pride where i am,im in a bar in boston and the red sox are winning.now thats the type of pride i like


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22 Jul 2011, 7:46 pm

Inclusion / participation in society in gainful ways. I will be blunt for a moment for one example out of many. The medical insurance for people with DD does not cover much dental which creates health problems. Your teeth have to fall out or current exhibit major health problems for them to fix. Meanwhile people are living off of $50 a week groceries and not much other money left over when they can afford a place to live independently. The cost of dentist for the needs exceeds what people can reasonably pay when they are allowed a payment plan with a dentist. Now I did mention when one can afford independent living as typically so I have run across one must have x3 the amount of rent money each month to be excepted and the waiting list for section 8 is 5+ years where I live. Need I explain anymore about what it is about or will this suffice beyond the generic equality notion in society?


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22 Jul 2011, 7:50 pm

Curabee love to point out the disabling effects of autism but refuse to point out any of the advantages of autism because of its supremacist connotations. This gives neurotypical a tremendous competetive advantage because the neurotypical can argue that there is no advantage to being autistic but only disadvantages. Instead the curabee argues that the autistic can rely on pity and compassion and that is all that is needed for sucess. Does anyone really think that a Boss is going to hire anyone based on pity and compassion ?



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22 Jul 2011, 7:54 pm

There we go with the locker room ego again. What I just said I don't speak or broadcast toward the public. Compassion is a method of adaptation and the individuals able to graduate college and are very independent don't need this kind of advocacy. It's very self-centered to remove compassion for the sake of prides ego and it's image. Those that use autism simply to say how gifted they are and suppress the advocacy of those who are in need of a differing adaption strategy are worse then real discrimination. They are in fact enabling the agenda of reducing equality. People with Asperger's Syndrome do not qualify for the facilitated inclusion supports I advocate about and when applicable for.


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22 Jul 2011, 8:03 pm

you know ci only talked about adequit living expenses thats all.nowhere did he diminish self resect in autism or talk like a curebee.i dont see your disagrement with his arguement


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22 Jul 2011, 8:10 pm

It may be that the heir-achy of pride that goes to college and gets these really good jobs doesn't want to pay more taxes for the needs of those less fortunate. Yet because they have mild autism they think they can stomp all over, boss around and get in the way of progress for the real monitory that is not as fortunate as them in general DD advocacy that simply hints at an audacity to achieve a fraction of what they do. Very high functioning individuals that put more importance in the image of autism for their own ego and at times in connection with abortion political agendas should be considered a special interest group in this regard. Especially when efforts have nothing to do with cure and they attack human rights inclusion efforts.

I am fully prepared and studied enough to politically obliterate them should they in an organized sense they cross the line. This is why I spent 5 months studying them after a brief attack on my organization and I have over 8 years of collective experience in the pride movements sociology. I am fully confident and in defense and advancements of these sacred human rights and adaptive progresses under the spirit of the ADA, federal and state civil rights laws so as to defend and enhance progress.


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22 Jul 2011, 8:21 pm

you have to remember too that they are going to college and dealing with people who are successful and who are constantly condecending them.social prejudice is real and its hurtfull.thats partly why some people here get so defensive.i dont blame them for feeling like they get no respect,i just didnt see your post as disrespecting them at all.people here are angry at the wrong people


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22 Jul 2011, 8:29 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
you have to remember too that they are going to college and dealing with people who are successful and who are constantly condecending them.social prejudice is real and its hurtfull.thats partly why some people here get so defensive.i dont blame them for feeling like they get no respect,i just didnt see your post as disrespecting them at all.people here are angry at the wrong people


I'll take it into consideration but a lack of respect does not at all equal the reality of dirt poor and barely fiscally surviving. A time may come where a mediator might be needed. But in the defense of these liberties and the progress given the successes so far and the importance I do not have the patients for that kind of conflict. There is much more at stake then the sensitivities of a few who dare to burden progress and hope. Especially when they do it out in the open.


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22 Jul 2011, 8:42 pm

thats what i was saying.there arguments would be relivent in anti social prejudice forum but your post had nothing to do with that at all.they misread your intentions


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