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My best guess is that they didn't have the people to make or fill the government spots they'd need, or the professions needed, and they may have felt like they had a really ambivalent audience who talked a big one but would leave them hanging if they tried it.

That's the hard part about all this. If any one person tries to call a location - everyone will just kind of mumble until they go away. It generally takes some kind of natural push to make a city or town come together, its usually not a planned thing. Trick is I suppose knowing when that dynamic is available, where its pointing, and facilitating it when it occurs naturally. I could happen some day, then again it may never. All really depends I guess.

We do need somewhere to live, remember... it's got to be a viable model as well.

First, and probably the easiest, step would be to make a forum dedicated to discussion and furthering of the idea. I'm thinking, forums to discuss the various aspects, and regional forums for people to gather together with likeminded individuals - we could have a great plan going, but it will come to nought if everyone is dotted around the globe. Once there's enough people in one area ready to go for it, they can meet up in person and organise further...

Hey whoah partner. This forum will do fine. I think it would be wise to have an organic connection with an existing city first. I was thinking western canada.

This Forum is not set up for the idea... if alex was to make a dedicated forum for the topic, then yes, but a signel thread for the topic will not work...

This idea will only get further if we can tap into regions where there is a hotspot of "visible" Autists.

Also, the different aspects of such a community need to be discussed seperately.

You would need to do better that that. This idea would need to be floated at such a high level of society that it started making the news and popping up on Yahoo and MSN's front page news rolodex. At that point all the emotional push and money in the world would come to it as the 'parent of a child with AS' light bulb went off across the world. You'd probably need people traveling the world to sell the idea for at least a decade.

What's a hotspot of visible autists?

No idea, that would take research on the part of anyone interested. Obviously the richest man in the world is said to have AS but, it would be much much much better - if he got involved at all - that he found out about it indirectly and took it on himself, people at that level if you try being salesy you'll likely turn them off immediately. Better to just look for autists who are vocal celebrities - give them a reasonable idea (such as a retreat town that's situated geographically and resource wise to where it just flat out makes sense), and let them sell what they've come to believe in.

Also understand that if the idea has any chance at all, it'll start getting pragmatic in a lot of ways that the idealists perhaps won't like much. That goes part and parcel with translating a dream into reality - ie. it may not end up being a fully autistic city, it likely will have as much in the way of laws and standards and paperwork, taxes, etc. to operate as any other corporate jurisdiction set up by NT's. It could have economic booms, bust, and job gain/loss, nothing will be perfect - but - it still doesn't change the possibility of living in a community with a declared AS majority, built for autists by autists. Should see what Temple Grandin knows about civil engineering, it'd be interesting to see how she'd route a traffic grid or set up residential/commercial/industrial zoning .

An area where there is a high concentration of Autists who are involved, at some level, with the "Autist community".


Why? We don't need a city straight off. All we need at first is a village, which is much easier to set up. No need to travel the world; a couple dozen motivated people could pull this off.


I'm aware of that...


Hmmm. I'm of the opinion we don't need an famous autists to throw their weight behind it - though it certainly helps. All we need is a small group in one area comitted to the cause enough to pool their resources together and buy some territory, and get moving.

The famous just count as matter-of-course advertising. I would imagine getting a professional advertiser could do a lot as well but, to get people there the word has to be out that you exist. Additionally its gotta be stressed, it would need to be a villiage with geology and location that offer ability for industry to move in - without a good base for jobs you have nothing.

You don't need to have industry to have a successful village... obviously, it depends on what you're trying to achieve to a large extent.

It's funny how different this idea is from the basic philosphy of the broader disability rights movement, which is all about community inclusion and not segregating people with disabilities. The autistic community seems to be much more like the deaf community, in the sense that people feel we have unique culture unto our own and much can be lost if we try too hard to 'blend in,' just for the sake of inclusion.

+1

You could add that having a place where we don't have to run ourselves ragged on that level could be a big health care advantage. That's another possibility - health insurers might like that one.

I've started a new thread for this, to gauge support - Autist Micronation - support

At the moment, I'm leading towards a simple semi-permanent retreat, at least to start off. A village, yes, but not one where everyone lives there full time. Perhaps, a quater could be "holiday homes" for Autists, which could provide income for the community's projects...?

Add holiday apartments/hostels, if we want to allow for all budgets.

Maybe a mutant virus will spread over the world, and being loners will save us from the pleague.
It worked in the past, why not in the future.

Depends on how thats going to work...