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It's in the league with all the other speculation of whether or not others have Asperger's per historical accounts. It is also been suggested in the media that Obama might have Aspergers, along with many other armchair psychological analyses: Bi-Polar, Sociopath, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and there probably are others, as well.

There may have been some that felt like it was a disparaging remark. But, Bush was actually presented along with company such as HG Wells, Newton, and Einstein, with this speculation, so it wasn't necessarily done in a disrespectful manner by all sources. An example below from an online health magazine:

http://www.healthdone.com/article/The-Difference-Between-Autism-and-Asperger-s-Syndrome.html



I didn't agree with many of the policies of George W. Bush, but I have to give the man credit, he had some type of consistent problem reading from a teleprompter, that was the source of alot of ridicule, but he sure didn't let it hold him back in life.

Adversity seems to make some people stronger, in life, ending up accomplishing more. His brother was the golden child, but didn't have the same challenges, in life.

I'm getting off track here a bit, but if one reads through the biographical accounts of US president's it's amazing the adversity that many of them overcame to reach the highest office in the land. Monroe and Lincoln, to me, are perhaps the most amazing two.

To me that says alot about the human condition, in general, and what it is about the species, as a whole, that started with Bi-pedal transportation in a localized area of the globe and now populates most every territory on the planet.

One source. That's it?

Whatever you try to bring in about the positives the fact is that you're still just slapping George Bush, some personal comment about a teleprompter and asperger's together. I don't know why you don't understand, but any normal person would just call that rumour-mongering.

But you just blurt it out, all calmly. In fact, that's the weirdest part

The point about the teleprompter, is really the only evidence I know of that he had a problem with, as far as communication. The record and evidence is clear on that part.

He had an history of interviewing quite well without a teleprompter, in his political career.

As I said before, I personally don't hold an opinion on whether or not he had one condition or another.

The fact is though, some sources that provide information on Aspergers and Autism report Bush as an example of a person with power and influence, said to have Aspergers.

I'm reporting that fact, backed up by a source on the internet that provides information on Aspergers. I don't agree that they should do it, or hold an opinion whether or not Bush has Aspergers, but the fact is these sources do report that it is widely said that he has Aspergers.

Here is another source reporting the same information. If you do a keyword search on the report in the statement it brings up over 100 sources with the same exact standard report on Aspergers, including that George W. Bush was said to have Aspergers.

They don't present it as a dirty snipe.

http://www.autism-world.com/index.php/2008/07/10/the-difference-between-autism-and-aspergers-syndrome-2/

Anyone notice that these have exactly the same words at the ending?
And if you look in them they're nearly word matches, except one is badly formatted.

They even have the same spelling mistakes, and that's a sign of actual professionalism isn't it?






It even more sounds like a dirty rumour, that I can only say was an attempt to connect people with autism with a widely disliked man. Your attempt to link up Abraham Lincoln just sounds like a cover-up attempt by stuffing in someone who was illustrious

I've said it at least three times now, I'm not suggesting that George Bush has Aspergers.

There is no more concrete evidence that Jefferson had Aspergers than there is that Bush had Aspergers, but many sources go on with these statements of potential association, because they are examples of individuals, that many are familiar with, suspected to have the condition.

It draws interest to the subject at hand, but in these cases, there is no indication that it is intended as a dirty rumour.

I wouldn't use any sources for information with autism that suggests it is associated with famous people, where there is no actual evidence of a diagnosis, that in itself is a lack of professionalism, but again it's a method commercial sites use to draw attention to the reading material presented.

I spoke about my personal opinion on general adversity, not Aspergers, in relationship to Lincoln, Bush, and Monroe.

The biographical accounts I have read on Monroe and Lincoln suggest both suffered from mental illness, and endured a great deal of adversity in their lives; there is no mention of Aspergers in the biographies I have read, nor is there mention of Aspergers in the biographical accounts I have read of Bush.

All of them delt with adversity, and overcame it well enough to maintain the highest office in the land, that's what impresses me.

there is certainly no concrete eveidence that george bush has aspergers.but thomas jefferson at the very least had a non verbal learning disability and probably aspergers.they also say joseph stalin had an aspergers or pdd-nos,nvld as well.

Not everyone who is famous and crucial to history had asperger's. Where did you get your evidence from?

Course not. You just keep passing on 'speculation' that he did. I don't know where you got suggesting from. I think the real focus was on you spreading rumours. Quit telling me what I am doing when I'm not, otherwise I am not going to reply any more

i never said everyone who was influencial in history had aspergers.where did you get that from my post.thomas jefferson is the only american politician reputed to have had an idiot savant personality.and stalin is the only leader in european history reputed to have had the same.they were never dx in there lifetimes so to specificaly say aspergers is hard but i former post addresses that.the part about stalin was from the father of kim peeks.jefferson is common knowledge.i wouls read the other persons post before giving a condecending response

Nothing personal. People are high strung on here, so I'll say this with all due respect.

I take issue with people claiming everyone important may have had this or that. You gotta see it from my point of view too. I have heard everyone claim that everyone important is autistic fair means or foul.

All it's doing is making false expectations, and it is not going to help anybody, especially not you guys

again you didnt read my post.i mentioned two people in all of history,thats hardly a lot.people here know me know i do very little posthumous diagnosing.i never said everyone or even a lot

No offence but I believe that was your mistake. I said that I have heard everyone claim all sorts of people. I never said that you claimed more than few people at all.

I wouldn't know how much posthumous diagnosing that you did. That isn't my beef at all. I said that I disagree with this speculation in general

ok fair enough

Commenting or a discussion on the fact that some people have speculated that George Bush has Aspergers and providing evidence of that speculation, is not an endorsement nor promotion of that speculation on my part, I made that clear in my first post on the subject, and thereafter in every post, so I am not personally spreading any rumors that George Bush has Aspergers.

As I already stated per comment and discussion:

You didn't comment on it. You made it. You brought in two bumpkis sources, both of which are badly-wriiten copy-pastes of each other, and have no actual proof contained in them.

I said you were spreading a rumour. Whether you agree or endorse, or comment or discuss it is irrelevant. You still spread the rumour on to this thread. And it's a dirty little rumour. I am not going to respond if you can't take resonsibility for it.

Providing speculation is just fancy talk for spreading a rumour. Stop trying to hide things in blocks of text.

Fact, you said Goerge W. Bush was an aspie. End of

I never said George W. Bush was an aspie, that is crystal clear in every post I made.

Sorry, but discussing the fact other individuals have speculated on an issue, is just that. I clearly stated that there was no concrete evidence that Geoge Bush has a form of autism, for that matter there is no concrete evidence for many of the other famous individuals speculated as having Aspergers. It would require a professional diagnosis of the actual human being in question.

I have not provided an opinion that George Bush is an Aspie. There is no evidence of that in the record. It is clear in every post I made regarding the subject. If you can provide a quote where I said he was an aspie I invite to present it. It doesn't exist.

If you don't want to respond to my posts that is your perogative, but unless you can provide evidence to support you assertions, they are assertions made with no evidence which equal opinion or personal judgement.