Susan Boyle target of Scottish Gangs

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I was watching a BBC documentary on the rise of youth gangs who seem to run almost a semi-autonomous state within the bounds of some estates across the UK, extorting money from residents and selling drugs etc...

However this seems to be more symptomatic of poorer housing commission areas such as the cramped council estate that Boyle chooses to stay in as she grew up in the area. However she has apparently purchased an expensive property in a decent area but chooses not to live there. While it's obvious she should move, I think she is very attached to her local area (where she grew up) and feels like she doesn't want to move. I can respect her decision as I often imagine even if I win the lottery I'd probably not move house for the same reasons.

<chuckle>
Have you met any younger people?
Overwhelmingly you can't reason with them period...even you with your more tender age of 28...
Young people simply switch off since they know everything and those over 30 no nothing...
I have found it is better to accept the situation and be in touch with reality rather than bash your head against an immovable object...<sigh>

To cyberdad, yes, Susan probably experiences strong attachment, as can often be the case with people with Asperger's. I was the exact same way when I was younger and before I had to move many many times and had to get used to that.

But I can relate strongly to Susan wanting to stay in the house she grew up in. When my family had to sell up the house I grew up in, I felt utterly traumatized. My whole life we had been stable there but I had always been terrified about the idea of moving, thinking it must be the worst thing in the world. I think Asperger's drives that anxiety deeply, for those of us who experience it, though not everyone does. But some of us do, and I think Susan has this.

I can't blame her for being resistant to leaving that house and that area despite the trouble she gets there now. She says the new house doesn't feel like home.

Personally, for me now, I would JUMP into that new house. But I totally get why Susan wouldn't feel like she can.

These kids are despicable though. Complete scum for targeting this poor woman.

I wish someone could also always accompany Susan so that she doesn't have to be out alone, on buses alone in rough areas where these feral bastards are.

Yes I'm worried her bravery is going to end badly. What can constructively be done given there is clearly too many gangs and not enough police

Disliking change is an identified autistic characteristic...
One of the reasons I have no interest in global travel...

However...
I used to be a sentimentalist...
Sentimentality has very little influence on me these days...
We can change...based on my experience...
Susan really should get the hell outta Dodge, imo...

Yes, change can be incredibly stressful and it's an autism characteristic. I'm the same, although I had to get used to it in regard to moving to different places to live.

I would imagine Susan is going through this regarding why she won't leave that original house. Also, her mother died in recent years and she probably doesn't want to leave for those reasons too. Sentiment does play a part in this.

I don't blame her. I relate to this strongly. If I could still be living in the house where I grew up and where my late parents and my memories of them are, I'd probably be trying to hang on there too.

Yes "we can change" -- I said in my post I had to change regarding moving home. But I still find those changes indescribably stressful. I DID them because I've had to, I've been forced to move. But if I had any option at all to stay in one place I would have done that.

Susan is being bullied where she is. It's her own home and nobody is forcing her to move. However, should she let these little thug a**holes kick her out of the home she loves?

Why should she have to move? There are no practical reasons forcing her out like I've been forced out. Just these thugs. It's not fair that she should have to give up the home she loves when there's nothing actually making her have to do that at all except the feral kids of morons who let their kids become the scum of the earth.

Why should she have to go live in the house she doesn't feel happy in? She will probably STILL get bullied there, because these jerks are everywhere.

She is entitled to be protected by the police there, and by the her council (which happens to receive her tax money).

It's rubbish that she's subjected to bullying. The thugs should all be arrested and taken into jail/prison, and be administered a special sort of "prison justice."

Better still...
They should be sent back to where they came from...
Their mother's womb...

Susan Boyle Explains Why She’s Chosen To ‘Forgive’ The Local Youths Who Targeted Her

She is a better person then I.

Susan really is great role model for the long lost christian virtue of forgiveness

Unfortunately, that virtue really doesn't work well anymore in today's society.

It's all very beautiful that Susan "forgives" them and thinks this standpoint will make them suddenly feel the error of their ways, rather than just reporting their sorry asses.

But this type of young person ---- some of them are actually incapable of remorse or of any dawning of the understanding that what they are doing is horrible or unacceptable.

THERE ARE people like that out there. Some may even be the clinical, official definition of sociopathic. Truly incapable of giving a s**t about bad behavior.

You can't just "forgive" that type of person in the hopes that they will have some Hollywood movie type of ephiphany and go "Oh, Ms Boyle, suddenly I feel terrible. . . .I see the light now! You kindness and forgiveness suddenly converts me into someone who never wants to be horrible to you or anyone again!"

NOT gonna happen. Sorry. But the one and only thing that should be done with these pieces of s**t should be arrest and slam them up. I know of this type and they are beyond seeing things differently. They don't give a s**t who "forgives" them.

In fact, to them, such a sweet response may actually garner even further contempt. It's not their language.

I also lean toward punishment over rehabilitation, however I do miss the old fashioned positive christian values (not the ignorant stuff) of my parent's generation which assumes all people can be redeemed if nurtured in the right environment.

Nostalgia for a bygone era

I'd like to damn all the little ferals to hell...
But I am hung up on the principle of: "Let he without sin throw the first stone..."

Despite popular belief, I am not perfect, so ipso facto, I must refrain from comment...
Oops...I just did make one!...d'oh!


P.S.
I'm a hard core atheist, btw...

I also tend to not believe in an old bearded white man who "made man man in his image" then threw out his children Adam and Eve from their home in Eden for stealing apples then sent another one of his kids Jesus so that we can all have Christmas holidays

Yeah I tend to think the thugs involved won't exactly "repent". I just feel for Susan who is being extremely gracious despite the harassment. It reminds of the old adage that only the "good die young"

Dear, dear, dear...
You aren't wishing that on Susan!


Well you can blame the evolutionary process and the fact that competing for resources simply to survive and the aggression required for mating rights was the environmental reality of our hairy ancestors...

These feral kids are simply tapping into their primitive aspects of our evolution...
Even the non sociopaths and psychopaths...

It is axiomatic that the more primitive components of our neurological makeup dominates in our younger years during adolescence when the brain isn't fully developed...
The "reptilian brain" and the limbic brain in the young has much greater instinctual/emotional sway than the neocortex which houses/is-responsible-for qualities such as integrity, morality, (intellectual) loyalty, a sense of justice, etc...
And I won't mention the influences of unfamiliar hormonal...errr...influences...
D'oh!
I just did <sigh>

Most people go through an arse-hole phase until they learn to control their basic urges and appreciate the higher/intellectual cerebral aspects of their humanity...

Have you noticed how there is an abundance of ratbags in the pool of people under 25 (in men) and 22 (in women)?
The insurance companies have, hence the higher cost of car insurance policies in that group...

As implied, studies have determined the male human brain doesn't mature, on average, until around the age of 25...
While the lovely female gender's brain matures in...errr...maturity around 22, well before their neanderthal male counterpart...

Have you noticed how many people shake their heads (if they have more than one...) at their youthful stupidity...(talk about cringe worthy)...after 30?
No?...
Well I have...

In conclusion:
While some feral kids will mature(?) into feral adults, there will be others who will/can be rehabilitated...
You have no choice but to accept this...
...since I am the oracle of Truth, justice, and all that stuff after all...

No definitely not, probably not the most appropriate cliche but you get the gist


Well blow me down!! did you ever study psychology? one minor correction here is that the prefrontal cortex in young people is still undeveloped so there is less executive control over the limbic system compared to older adults.

Young males tend to act more feral/impulsive compared to females due to testosterone, taking risks like attacking celebrities in their homes



Yes that's true! (the rehab stuff)