Attempt to ban Nikki Osborne stand up routine about son
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-12/autism-mums-comedy-routine-causes-controversy/9859092
Nikki Osborne replied:
“So I'm just going to put this out there because people are upset and that's never good.
I did a show called 'On The Spectrum" for the comedy festival.
Some people were concerned about this. They shared their concerns on my page. However concerns quickly turned into nasty debate from all parties. I had to block people. I had to block some people that I really didn't want to but I could see them being persecuted and I couldn't defend them. So I just took people out of the battle arena for mental preservation.
What I want to say is that even if I blocked you, it doesn't mean that I didn't listen...I just didn't want to argue. I can see that you are someone advocating hard for autism, I respect that. F*&king good. You don't agree with my platform for advocating that's fine, you don't have to, we can agree to disagree. That's life. Let's resolve who's right about vaccinations shall we? I'm kidding. You catch my drift.
People raised concerns over consent which I believe are valid. So, I have altered the show to be a collective of stories.
People didn't like the poster. I couldn't change that for the festival as that had gone to print in brochures etc months before. I'm changing it now however.
People said I can't speak on behalf of autistic people. I don't. I speak on behalf of me, and I'm speaking to parents of children on the spectrum and parents of children off the spectrum...because I've been both which leads me to this:
Why did I do the show? When my eldest started kindy I was "warned" by other parents that there was an autistic kid in their class. So my reaction was "okay, I best keep my son away then"............YES! THAT'S RIGHT! I WAS AFRAID OF IT AND KNEW F ALL ABOUT IT! The irony is that my son ended up best mates with another kid who was later diagnosed so that was lesson number one right there.
So then came my turn. Shoe on the other foot. I knew the general attitude of NT (see, I'm learning) because I had it only a few years prior.
Feedback from my final two shows (as I did a lot of re-writing...because-in spite of my own depleting mental health- I was quietly listening to the critics) was how they loved that my son was the hero of the story. Because he is. This is the sentiment I am trying to spread. These kids are cool. Not to be avoided. Just educated, positive acceptance. Invite them for a play date FFS. Get over this idealist attitude of normal.
(My husband said this to me the day of diagnosis. "f**k normal'. In fact, that should be my shirt.)
I thought comedy would be a good platform for reaching those outside the community of autism as everyone loves comedy but not everyone wants to sit down to an SBS documentary about the condition. They're too busy watching Bachelor in Paradise.
The other reason I did the show is for the parents of newly diagnosed littlies. To dismiss the feelings and needs of the parents is horribly unfair. Marriages break down. Depression sets in. Isolation. It's all driven by fear of the unknown. I know. I've been there. I didn't want counselling. I just wanted hope and to be cheered the f*&k up. I needed upbeat stories. I needed optimism. I needed my show 5 years ago.
At the end of my last two nights I had parents in tears, hugging me because they felt happy. They laughed. They resonated and left with the feeling of "f**k normal".
The final reason was to shine a spotlight on the current system. The confusion. The acronyms. The terminology. The gauntlet to get help. There have been OTs and Speechies who have been to the show who completely agree with how difficult it is to navigate.
So yes, I've written a lot here. I'm an incredibly sensitive soul who has taken all of this to heart despite many urging me to f**k'em. A lot of tears have been shed (and 5 kilos). I thought it important to tell you that I value your thoughts. I've listened. I've altered. I've done my f*&king best. It's not easy making all of your mistakes on stage in front of people. I came home from my first few shows going "yuk, I hated that bit. That bit felt negative. Why did I say that? Okay, I need to write more bits about that. Oh god, I'm not happy with this bit). Then I open FB and I see nasty comments about the bits I already knew sucked but unfortunately, the jury was already out on that show so I just tried to fix the rest. Anyway, I reckon I had it right by the second last show. I think it's in a really good space now.
I'm sorry if I've blocked you....it's not personal. I wish you all well. Keep fighting your fight but your quarrel should no longer be with me.
Warmest.
Nikki”
"The next one's already half written itself — PC Gone Mad, I think that's what it'll be called."
"Source Kids is a not-for-profit organisation and our intention is to deliver a disability expo for everyone in the disability community.
"The response from our audience in announcing Nikki as a speaker made it clear that her presence would prevent some members of this community from attending.
"Unfortunately Source Kids has borne the brunt of a debate that has now become about the content of Nikki's show, which is an entirely separate matter from our expo."
Nicole Rogerson, CEO of Autism Awareness Australia, understands where Nikki Osborne's comedy is coming from.
"As an autism mum, there are times over the years that have been very humorous, and good luck to you if you can laugh with it; I've always tried to," she said.
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How about this? You stop telling people what they can and can't joke about and this comedy just continues.. ok?
I mean, my instinct tell me to go on a rant about censorship, being "offended" and how you can get f****d if you do.
but I wont.
Instead, im gonna make some jokes about suicide and rape.
Ready? Tough love, b*****s!
Rape is no laughing matter! Unless it happens to a clown...
Suicide is nothing to joke about! IT'S DO DIE FOR!
I can keep going, but you get the point. JOKES ARE GOOD! Stop being a whiney b***h, just because something hurt your feefee's...
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How about this? You stop telling people what they can and can't joke about and this comedy just continues.. ok?
I mean, my instinct tell me to go on a rant about censorship, being "offended" and how you can get f****d if you do.
but I wont.
Instead, im gonna make some jokes about suicide and rape.
Ready? Tough love, b*****s!
Rape is no laughing matter! Unless it happens to a clown...
Suicide is nothing to joke about! IT'S DO DIE FOR!
I can keep going, but you get the point. JOKES ARE GOOD! Stop being a whiney b***h, just because something hurt your feefee's...
How about understanding that "You Can't make Jokes About Autism!" is not my opinion but the headline of the article I quoted. That is why I hyperlinked it.
My opinion was right on the bottom of the original post
"I generally really do not like people using their kids as fodder but I agree that sometimes we need to laugh about pitfalls in our lives even ones that are painful and serious at the time. I would have to see the show to see if she says anything that will come back to hurt the kid later on in life"
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You absolutely can joke about autism. Just don't joke about other people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNenTFDW-Nk
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sorry for butchering the english language and obsessively re-editing my posts.
For me, as stated above, it is ALL about WHO is doing the joking. An autistic stand up comedian is fine, I have no problem with that. The problem for me lies in the fact that it is a parent joking about her underage son and I am unsure if I feel he can give informed consent or not.
Really, the question for me is not about whether you can or can't make fun of autism but whether a parent "owns" the right to divulge and use information concerning one of her children in this way regardless of whether he or she has autism.
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