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19 Feb 2008, 5:25 pm

I don't have a problem with the cure because there are some people out there who have bad autism because they can't talk or take care of themselves or be able to live a normal life. I am talking about full blown autism and severe autism. I wouldn't want to live like that. If a cure does ever happen, I think it should be our choice to take it or not.
There are things I like to get rid of about myself but I don't know if I would want to cure the condition out of me. I mostly say 'no' to it about myself and sometimes I am not sure.



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19 Feb 2008, 5:37 pm

Honestly, if a cure is made, I won't be using it. "Cures" to these kind of things never make you completely normal. Like ritalin. Alot of kids with ADHD/ADD who are forced to take that crap end up being zombified when they are on the drug. That's what I seem to notice anyway. They tried to make me take ritalin but my parents gave them a big "no".

I may have social issues, I may have my quirks, but I like who I am. No cure for me.



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20 Feb 2008, 2:02 am

If a cure was made, do you honestly think that people would get to decide if they wanted to take it or not?
If Asperger's was diagnosed early in a childs life, would the parents not (with the best intentions sure) not force the cure on their child?
I am very much against changing the way you think or feel by way of medicin. I believe that if you are unhappy with the person you are, you have the power to change it by determination and willpower. It should be a slow steady change, not a cataclysmic event.

If a grown up wants to take the cure for himself, then I say let him, but I doubt that many of us will be given the choice. Not all countries are as understanding as America or Denmark.


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20 Feb 2008, 11:23 am

Well, I can't decide yet if I want to cure myself. I do want to be with someone, and yet I don't want to. I wanted to know what I've got from AS. I know it's not intelligence. I'm not smart if I have a 96 I.Q.(According to psychoanalyst intelligence test.) So i want to know what else I got. I know nothing about myself. A part of me wants a cure next part of me doesn't. I won't say stupid random things and be 'weird'. I read books all the time on how to make friends, but it's not working. Because I realize that AS is in the way. I'm not saying wether or not I WANT a cure. I'm just very unsure.



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20 Feb 2008, 4:21 pm

Chimchar wrote:
Well, I can't decide yet if I want to cure myself. I do want to be with someone, and yet I don't want to. I wanted to know what I've got from AS. I know it's not intelligence. I'm not smart if I have a 96 I.Q.(According to psychoanalyst intelligence test.) So i want to know what else I got. I know nothing about myself. A part of me wants a cure next part of me doesn't. I won't say stupid random things and be 'weird'. I read books all the time on how to make friends, but it's not working. Because I realize that AS is in the way. I'm not saying wether or not I WANT a cure. I'm just very unsure.


That's PDD-NOS (Pervasive Developmental Disorder - Not Otherwise Specified) and not Asperger's, Chimchar. If that IQ score is right. Of course that still means that you are on the Autistic Spectrum so the issues are pretty much the same.

Anders is right - IF a "cure" was found, it will be used against us by depriving us of another generation of Aspies (and the rest of the Spectrum) and we would grow old alone effectively.

But it's a moot point, because there isn't a cure.



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20 Feb 2008, 4:36 pm

I have mixed feelings about a cure. On one hand, I would really like to have normal life, go out and meet people and know how to converse with them, maybe have a family. On the other hand, I kind of like being different. I've been this way for almost 27 years now and I've sort of grown used to it. I think if there is a cure found it should not be forced upon us. We should have the right to take the cure or not take it if we so chose.



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20 Feb 2008, 5:52 pm

Chimchar wrote:
Well, I can't decide yet if I want to cure myself. I do want to be with someone, and yet I don't want to. I wanted to know what I've got from AS. I know it's not intelligence. I'm not smart if I have a 96 I.Q.(According to psychoanalyst intelligence test.) So i want to know what else I got. I know nothing about myself. A part of me wants a cure next part of me doesn't. I won't say stupid random things and be 'weird'. I read books all the time on how to make friends, but it's not working. Because I realize that AS is in the way. I'm not saying wether or not I WANT a cure. I'm just very unsure.


It is very unlikely that your IQ is 96! I've read your writing.

I think you are setting out on a road of self exploration. I hope you can be at peace with yourself soon.

It's easy for me to make these remarks because I am NT. My only authority is my beloved grand children who, a year after diagnosis and counselling are proud of their aspergers.

The boys are starting to make friends too. I think this is because of their counselling and their acceptance of who they are. Some of the kids are drawn to their quirky humour and their deep knowledge of some subjects.

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20 Feb 2008, 6:00 pm

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Chimchar wrote:
I just found out that scientists are determined to look for a cure for autism. But the Aspies seem to have a problem with this cure. They say that we don't need a cure, why is that? Are they happy being Aspie? I'm an Asperger's and for some reason I'm not proud of it.

What's wrong with curing it? If you guys think we shouldn't find a cure for Asperger's or high functioning autism. Why don't we find a cure for the ones who are low functioning?

What's the deal with this issue? I'm new to researching the disorder, so please don't be offended.

If believe in wanting a cure for self,nothing wrong with that,it should be about choice,and not having it forced on others.

Am LFA,and do want a partial cure as am have no quality of life and am going to be living in 24/7 care res. homes for the rest of life,am moving to a more supported/higher complex needs home soon which should help a little,but they do not have res. homes in quiet areas [countryside type] here,so am going to be in same situation.

A problem am have with the cure topics,is when people say aspies should be asked if they want cures,but just cure LFAs,as if being LFA means have less rights as human and do not have an opinion,but at the same time try to promote acceptance of aspies,it should work both ways.

Am see nothing wrong with idea of cure [whether full or partial] as long as it's through choice,and not through killing autistic babies before they're born,doubt it will end up as innocent sounding as that though.
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20 Feb 2008, 6:53 pm

it depends what's being cured.

my son's got 1, 2 max, years of innocent happiness left before he gets to the age where he'll most likely be torn to pieces by bullies.

Because of the risks, I'm not going anywhere near the usual ADHD drugs even though they could probably help him a bit. But if something were available that would help him focus and thereby understand social norms better, I'd have to seriously consider it for him.

I don't want him to end up bitterly hating NTs because they'll do what most all kids that age do, pick on those who are easiest to victimize.



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20 Feb 2008, 7:30 pm

At this age, even if "cured", I'd still be weird. I didn't spend a lifetime learning to socialize, and I imagine it would be a bit like tackling a new language at this stage of life. I didn't spend a lifetime caring about being a "people person", and I doubt it would come to me with a cure, or that I'd suddenly care. I'd still have all my interests- God forbid I lose them!- and I'd still be a perfectionist, because I know I can be. Maybe some things would be easier, maybe I'd be able to drive, maybe I'd be able to sleep, maybe I'd be able to hug my family. But I'd still be a nerd, socially awkward, and conditioned to the lifestyle I've always lived. So it's a bit late in the game for a cure for me, I think. I'll just keep on keepin' on like I've always done.

As for autistic children and future generations... maybe with the autistic "awareness" that's been going on and people like us on the forum acting as support systems and being here to talk Aspie-to-Aspie, they will grow up with treatments and understanding that we who are older and/or grew up undiagnosed could have never imagined. Let us hope they do. Maybe acceptance of neurodiversity is the cure. Who knows?



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26 Feb 2008, 6:01 am

I don't think there's going to be a cure. The most we can do is make low functioning autistics high functioning.
Personally, I'd go batshit if I became an NT. The only reason why I haven't grabbed a gun and shot myself or/and others is cause I don't have such a desire to engage with others.