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17 Mar 2008, 6:46 pm

Well how about some historical figures that are strongly suspected to have had Asperger's/Autism?

- Charles Darwin
- Albert Einstein
- Thomas Jefferson
- Wolfgang Mozart
- Isaac Newton
- George Orwell

The full list is much longer, I picked out the most well known.



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17 Mar 2008, 7:57 pm

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Kim Peek isn't autistic.

He isn't?

Nope.

He is merely a savant and nothing more. It was believed he was autistic for a long time, but his diagnosis got changed.

Interesting. Why was his diagnosis changed?


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17 Mar 2008, 11:35 pm

Tajiri Satoshi is my hero <3


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18 Mar 2008, 3:24 pm

Is Daniel Tammet diagnosed? I always wondered, I saw an interview in which Baron-Cohen said he didn't warrant for a diagnosis any more. But he sure is autistic, absolutely.



And I believe with Kim Peek the professionals said that his brain is very different, his corpus callosum is absent (not entirely?) and some other damage to specific areas of the brain. Absence of the corpus callosum, which connects both hemispheres, causes autistic-like symptoms. But professionals say it doesn't equal autism.



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22 Mar 2008, 12:04 pm

Smelena wrote:
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Stephen Spielberg:

Writer and director of the Jurassic Park movies.


Have they actually been formally diagnosed and stated it publicly?

Isn't Autism Awareness week in April?

Couldn't WP members be flooding media people with messages about famous, successful Aspies / Autistics? Again, the general public is obsessed with celebrity. I believe we need to appeal to this celebrity obsession.

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Steven Spielberg states his dx on his website. Courtney Love mentions hers as well. Maybe she is not such a good role model but it explains a lot.



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22 Mar 2008, 12:07 pm

Donna Williams has stories about ordinary AS ppl on her blog and that has validity too. Not everyone can be a star.



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22 Mar 2008, 1:49 pm

auntyjack wrote:

Steven Spielberg states his dx on his website. Courtney Love mentions hers as well. Maybe she is not such a good role model but it explains a lot.


Where on spielberg's web site does it state his diagnosis? Can you give us a link?



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22 Mar 2008, 5:46 pm

David Byrne?



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22 Mar 2008, 11:43 pm

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Where on spielberg's web site does it state his diagnosis? Can you give us a link?


gah that site has been taken down, which is a pity. it was very basic and I really liked it. There was a timeline with a note about Asperger dx, I think in 1999 but not sure. However there are lots of references to Spielberg and AS. Wayyy before Mozart and the Whale was filmed, he talked with Jerry about making a movie about his life. The interest in autism is there.



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23 Mar 2008, 1:10 pm

Orwell wrote:
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Kim Peek


Kim Peek isn't autistic.

He isn't?


Nope, Peek has born with a brain deformation that involves a lack of a corpus callosum (the structure connecting the cerebral hemisoheres) among other things


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23 Mar 2008, 1:42 pm

Albert Einstein (German-American physicist)
Issac Newton (British Physicist)
Bill Gates (American businessman and software entrepreneur)
Archimedes (Ancient Greek mathematician and engineer)
Ludwig Wittgenstein (Austrian philosopher)
Thomas Jefferson (American statesman and 3rd US President)
Bela Bartok (Hungarian pianist)
Vernon Smith (American economist)
Claudius Caesar (Roman Emperor)
Karl Popper (Austrian philosopher and liberal political theorist)
Alan Turing (American computer scientist)
Lewis Caroll (British writer)
Wolfgang Mozart (Austrian composer)
Steve Spielberg (American filmmaker)
Henry Cavendish (British chemist, discoverer of hydrogen)
Immanuel Kant (German philosopher)
James Joyce (Irish novelist)
Charles Darwin (British naturalist)
Eamon Valera (Irish statesman)
Glenn Gould (Canadian pianist)
Srinivāsa Rāmānujan (Indian mathematician)
Charles Richter (American geophysicist, creator of the Richter scale)
Paul Dirac (British physicist)


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26 Apr 2008, 1:32 am

Oh, and us.
Lab Pet is HFA too. We are your scientist and artists.


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26 Apr 2008, 11:30 am

According to wikipedia, the following are all on the autistic spectrum:
Asperger's Syndrome:

* Nikki Bacharach, deceased, daughter of composer Burt Bacharach and actress Angie Dickinson.[1]
* Richard Borcherds, Fields Medalist.[2]
* William Cottrell, student sentenced for fire-bombing SUV dealerships.[3]
* Peter Howson, Scottish painter.[4]
* Luke Jackson, author.[5]
* Heather Kuzmich, fashion model and reality show contestant on America's Next Top Model.[6]
* Craig Nicholls, frontman of the Australian garage rock band, The Vines.[7]
* Gary Numan, British singer and songwriter.[8]
* Tim Page, Pulitzer Prize-winning critic and author.[9]
* Dawn Prince-Hughes, PhD, primate anthropologist, ethologist, and author.[10]
* John Elder Robison, brother of author Augusten Burroughs and author of Look Me in the Eye, a memoir detailing his experience with Asperger's.
* Vernon L. Smith, Nobel Laureate in economics.[11]
* Satoshi Tajiri, creator and designer of Pokémon Pocket Monsters.[12]
* Raymond Thompson, New Zealand scriptwriter and TV producer.[13]
* Liane Holliday Willey, author.[14]

[edit] High-functioning autism

Further information: High-functioning autism

* Michelle Dawson, autism researcher and autism rights activist.[15]
* Temple Grandin, food animal handling systems designer and author.[16]
* Caiseal Mor author, musician, and artist.[17]
* Hikari Oe, Japanese composer.[18]
* Dylan Scott Pierce, wildlife illustrator.[19]
* Jim Sinclair, autism rights activist.[20]
* Donna Williams, Australian author.[21]

[edit] Autism spectrum

Further information: Autism, autistic savant, and autism spectrum

* Amanda Baggs, advocate of rights for autistic people.[22]
* Lucy Blackman, university educated author.[23]
* Alonzo Clemons, American clay sculptor.[24]
* Tony DeBlois, blind American musician.[25]
* Christopher Knowles, American poet.[26]
* Leslie Lemke, blind American musician.[27]
* Jonathan Lerman, American artist.[28]
* Katherine McCarron, autistic child murdered by her mother, Karen McCarron.[29]
* Jason McElwain, high school basketball player.[30]
* Thristan Mendoza, Filipino marimba prodigy.[31]
* Tito Mukhopadhyay, author, poet, and philosopher.[32]
* Abubakar Tariq Nadama, autistic boy who died after chelation therapy.[33]
* Derek Paravicini, blind British musician.[34]
* Kim Peek, basis for Rain Man,[27][35] although diagnosis has changed.[36]
* James Henry Pullen, gifted British carpenter.[37]
* Matt Savage, U.S. autistic jazz prodigy.[38]
* Birger Sellin, German author.[39]
* Henriett Seth-F., Hungarian autistic savant, poet, writer and artist. [40]
* Daniel Tammet, British autistic savant.[41]
* Richard Wawro, Scottish artist.[27]
* Stephen Wiltshire, British architectural artist.[

And the following are speculated to have been on the autistic spectrum:
Hans Christian Andersen – author Michael Fitzgerald[4]
Béla Bartók – 20th century Hungarian composer Ioan James;[7] Oliver Sacks says the evidence is thin.[8]
Hugh Blair of Borgue – 18th century Scottish landowner thought mentally incompetent, now studied as case history of autism. Rab Houston and Uta Frith[9]
Lewis Carroll – writer, logician Michael Fitzgerald[4][6]
Henry Cavendish – 18th century British scientist. He was unusually reclusive, literal minded, had trouble relating to people, had trouble adapting to people, difficulties looking straight at people, drawn to patterns, etc. Oliver Sacks,[8][10][3] and Ione James;[2][7] Fred Volkmar of Yale Study Child Center is skeptical.[3]
Charles XII of Sweden – speculated to have had Asperger syndrome Swedish researchers, Gillberg[11] and Lagerkvist[12]
Jeffrey Dahmer – serial killer Silva, et al[13][14]
Charles Darwin – naturalist, associated with the theory of evolution by natural selection Michael Fitzgerald[15]
Éamon de Valera – Irish revolutionary and politician Michael Fitzgerald[16][4]
Paul Dirac – British mathematician and physicist. He was Lucasian Professor of Mathematics at Cambridge University, 1933–1963 and a Fellow of St John's College. Awarded the 1933 Nobel Prize in Physics for his work on the mathematical foundations of Quantum Mechanics. Ione James[2]
Albert Einstein – physicist See analysis below
Janet Frame – New Zealand author Sarah Abrahamson;[17] this suggestion has been the subject of some controversy.[18][not in citation given][19]
Glenn Gould – Canadian pianist and noted Bach interpreter. He liked routine to the point he used the same seat until it was worn through. He also disliked social functions to the point that in later life he relied on the telephone or letters for virtually all communication. He had an aversion to being touched, had a different sense of hot or cold than most, and would rock back and forth while playing music. He is speculated to have had Asperger syndrome. Michael Fitzgerald,[4] Ioan James,[7] Tony Attwood,[20] and NPR[21]
Adolf Hitler – German politician, dictator Michael Fitzgerald[6]
Thomas Jefferson – US President Norm Ledgin[22] Tony Attwood,[20] and Ioan James[7]
Keith Joseph – father of Thatcherism Michael Fitzgerald[4][16]
James Joyce – author of Ulysses Michael Fitzgerald and Antionette Walker[5]
Ted Kaczynski – Unabomber Silva, et al[13][23]
Michelangelo – Italian Renaissance artist, based on his inability to form long-term attachments and certain other characteristics Arshad and Fitzgerald;[24][25][4] Ioan James also discussed Michelangelo's autistic traits.[7]
Wolfgang Mozart – composer Tony Attwood[20] and Michael Fitzgerald;[4] others disagree that there is sufficient evidence to indicate any diagnoses for Mozart.[1]
Isaac Newton See analysis below
Moe Norman – Canadian golfer USA Today[26]
George Orwell – writer speculated to have had Asperger Syndrome. His troubled life went along with social interaction problems. Towards the end of his life he wrote bitter polemic on his preparatory boarding school Such, Such Were the Joys which displays many of the characteristics of Asperger's and interpersonal relationships. Orwell knew this intensely personal account was libellous and biographers have found it a challenge to explain its conflict with the truth, but Orwell still felt it important to publish this account eventually. Michael Fitzgerald[4][16]
Enoch Powell – British politician Michael Fitzgerald[4][16]
Srinivasa Ramanujan – mathematician Ioan James[7] and Michael Fitzgerald[27]
Charles Richter – seismologist, creator of the eponymous scale of earthquake magnitude Susan Hough in her biography of Richter[28]
Erik Satie – composer Ioan James[7] and Michael Fitzgerald[4]
Jonathan Swift – author Ioan James[7] and Michael Fitzgerald[4]
Alan Turing – pioneer of computer sciences. He seemed to be a math savant and his lifestyle has many autism traits about it. Tony Attwood[20] and Ioan James[7]
Michael Ventris – English architect who deciphered Linear B Simon Baron-Cohen[29]
Andy Warhol – American artist Michael Fitzgerald[4][30] and Ioan James[7]
Blind Tom Wiggins – autistic savant Oliver Sacks[31]
Ludwig Wittgenstein – Austrian philosopher Michael Fitzgerald[32][33] Tony Attwood,[20] and Ioan James;[7] Oliver Sacks says the evidence is thin.[8]
W. B. Yeats – poet and dramatist Michael Fitzgerald[4][16]

Note: The formatting is horribly messed up. The people on the right are the ones who posthumously diagnosed them. I don't know what the numbers ar efor.



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27 Apr 2008, 1:18 am

ddrapayo wrote:
According to wikipedia, the following are all on the autistic spectrum:
Asperger's Syndrome:


Note: The formatting is horribly messed up. The people on the right are the ones who posthumously diagnosed them. I don't know what the numbers ar efor.


This is such a cool list, because it provides names of the people who diagnosed or otherwise stated that these people might be on the spectrum. Some even have explanations, and those that don't can be looked up. I've seen a similar list without the names on the right or any explanations, and always wondered who said these people were autistic and on what basis, and I never knew if the lists could be trusted. thanks for posting this.

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27 Apr 2008, 1:37 am

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* Craig Nicholls, frontman of the Australian garage rock band, The Vines.[7]


Craig's band, the Vines, performed their new single at the MTV Australia awards in Sydney last night. I think its absolutely awesome thats hes recovered and is able to do this. I'm so proud of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQOCZsOFENw


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28 Apr 2008, 12:04 pm

Norah_W wrote:
ddrapayo wrote:
According to wikipedia, the following are all on the autistic spectrum:
Asperger's Syndrome:


Note: The formatting is horribly messed up. The people on the right are the ones who posthumously diagnosed them. I don't know what the numbers ar efor.


This is such a cool list, because it provides names of the people who diagnosed or otherwise stated that these people might be on the spectrum. Some even have explanations, and those that don't can be looked up. I've seen a similar list without the names on the right or any explanations, and always wondered who said these people were autistic and on what basis, and I never knew if the lists could be trusted. thanks for posting this.

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The numbers refer to which books the diagnoses are in. I've read two of Michael Fitzgerald's books and unfortunately I think he's confusing autism with the kind of isolation and social awkwardness associated with being exceptionally gifted. Anyone who grows up socially isolated and awkward but then becomes successful in a challenging field and has a group of like-minded people to hang out with is probably not autistic - that's giftedness. I was not convinced that any of the people he described were autistic.