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koryna
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12 Feb 2009, 11:51 pm

I got a friend, an NT friend, who's coming in to help.



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12 Feb 2009, 11:51 pm

Hooray! You have my thanks.

(I'm obviously capnmort.)



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12 Feb 2009, 11:54 pm

Well, things have calmed down a bit for now, if only because the other fellow isn't posting.



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13 Feb 2009, 12:04 am

heh, you've been giving some good replies

I've been trying to respond, but you keep jumping in and saying things just as well I could.



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13 Feb 2009, 12:36 am

koryna wrote:

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heh, you've been giving some good replies

I've been trying to respond, but you keep jumping in and saying things just as well I could.


Ah, thank you! I feel so validated. :wink:

Anyhow, it seems like some likewise eloquent person has also joined in.



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13 Feb 2009, 12:45 am

Curiously, someone just removed a bunch of their seemingly insightful comments.



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13 Feb 2009, 12:48 am

Legacy? Yeah, he considers himself a HFA, and suddenly realized that he doesn't know whether the program he went through as a child was ABA or not. It was a program called Giant Steps: http://www.giantstepstoronto.ca/2004/therapies.html

**coughs** he was my second boyfriend.

the5thghostbuster2 is my current boyfriend :D



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13 Feb 2009, 8:29 pm

wow.... over 100 comments, and it's still going. o.0



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13 Feb 2009, 10:55 pm

Aye aye aye.



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14 Feb 2009, 1:25 am

In his latest comment: "Why should I have to prove that lacking basic mental abilities is horrible? What ideological basis exists that declares it just for some people to be mentally disabled, while other people get to be geniuses?"

Apparently he equates autism with lacking basic mental abilities.
Also he seems to be under the impression that there is something in our philosophy that says that it's "just" for some people to be "mentally disabled" while others are "geniuses".

I pity him. My roommate is following this too, and she pities him too. He seems to be full of such overwhelming self-loathing to see everything as being against him. He's determined to see things negatively, because that's all he appears to know. If he has experienced otherwise, he hasn't said it. He's more or less has had all of his dreams, goals and life crushed out of him, and has admitted to giving up.
He's a victim. Society, which is supposed to support all of us, has failed him.
However, I won't tell him I pity him. Either all he's doing is looking for pity, or it'll anger him. He wants something to blame and seeing nothing else, blames himself and rages against the unfairness of it all. He resents that capnmort and I are seemingly capable autistic persons, while he wallows in his negativity. Pity won't help him.
That's why I keep telling him that I believe in him, and that he's beautifully unique.

However, he's full of circular logic, refuses to remain on one topic, and calls everything that we say as lies. Every time we attempt to address one of his points, he changes the subject.



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14 Feb 2009, 1:33 pm

Kara wrote:
It is absolutely adorable!! !
I'll favourite and rate it!
Incidentally, I got a comment on my channel today, that says I should consider what a burdon I am to him (a coplete stranger) my family (whom he has never met) and society in general.
I am so angry with people like that.
Some people don't only want a cure, they would probably prefer it, if we just killed ourselves.
:(

8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

Could you post a link so that people can yell at him?



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14 Feb 2009, 1:51 pm

notbrianna wrote:
Kara wrote:
It is absolutely adorable!! !
I'll favourite and rate it!
Incidentally, I got a comment on my channel today, that says I should consider what a burdon I am to him (a coplete stranger) my family (whom he has never met) and society in general.
I am so angry with people like that.
Some people don't only want a cure, they would probably prefer it, if we just killed ourselves.
:(

8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

Could you post a link so that people can yell at him?

yes,not good.
some see people on the spectrum in terms of cost to the country they're in,they cant see the actual person,the user who wrote that needs to get some personal experience with disability to see how uncontrollable it is,and whingeing about the costs of autism and as will do nothing,it only makes themselves look stupid for assuming the person can help the way they are and their support needs [if any].
just wait till they get old,they will probably see what it's like to be called the things they are calling autists now.


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14 Feb 2009, 3:44 pm

Well, I was planning to join in the conversation over this video, but as far as I can see you guys have it under control. If I got on their I'd probably only destroy the civilized debate.

However, if that mindf**k Joaharu shows up, contact me at once. I have a few words i'd like to say to it.


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14 Feb 2009, 4:25 pm

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However, if that mindf**k Joaharu shows up, contact me at once. I have a few words i'd like to say to it.


will do :wink:


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14 Feb 2009, 5:01 pm

Kara wrote:
It is absolutely adorable!! !
I'll favourite and rate it!
Incidentally, I got a comment on my channel today, that says I should consider what a burdon I am to him (a coplete stranger) my family (whom he has never met) and society in general.
I am so angry with people like that.
Some people don't only want a cure, they would probably prefer it, if we just killed ourselves.
:(
I don't think the cure guys see the difference.


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14 Feb 2009, 6:48 pm

koryna wrote:
I don't think puberty is a personality death; it's just a huge amount of change and development in a short period of time.


Isn't a cure a huge amount of change and development in a short period of time too?


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