New Theory Of Autism Suggests Disorder Can Be Reverisble

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02 Apr 2009, 11:12 am

I strongly believe AS is genetic. My mother had it and my brother has it.

Still, it may be reversible, as they suggest. It would probably take a cocktail of drug therapy, and I'm already on a cocktail for bipolar. I wonder if they'd mix?

Of course, this is all speculation. I think we'd all have to face a hard decision if a cure was discovered. We may not have a choice. Systems may no longer provide services to help us if a cure is possible.


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02 Apr 2009, 11:55 am

The message is, we need a lot more money.

Researchers at Microsoft are working night and day on developing Service Pack II for Autism.

Autism rates are higher where people fly kites, the Taliban was right.

I will believe Science when I see some.

Autism is caused by the spin rates of Anti-Protons of Dark Matter,

we need you to fund the Discombobulator and free all of these long suffering parents of a Physics Problem.



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02 Apr 2009, 12:03 pm

*ponder* Let's take a different system, subject it to stimuli, and evaluate it by the metrics of an entirely different system. That earns a small [fail] stamp from me. There are a lot of aspects to the human condition; to presume that by inducing a fever that they claim that they may be able to reverse symptoms or an entire effect, are absurd to me. Only thing of interest that I find is that my constant temperature is 97.1, lower than what is considered normal, while remaining relatively exothermic... but that doesn't prove anything. *laugh*


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02 Apr 2009, 12:47 pm

If symptoms decrease when the autistic person has a fever, is that because of some complex brain mechanism, or because you're too sick to stim? I mean, the few times I've had a fever I've been too tired to do anything, including think. All I wanted to do was rest and sleep. That's hardly an improvement in condition.



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02 Apr 2009, 10:39 pm

ForsakenEagle wrote:
I am still a firm believer that it is genetic. :lol:

The science agrees with you. Autism has a higher heritability than anything else in the DSM-IV.


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20 Apr 2009, 2:14 pm

just posted this in another thread but seems like it is applicable here also...

That is their theory, this is mine - according to a lifetime of myself being Autistic and years and years of increasing my emotional intelligence and communitive abilities... while maintaining being Autistic...

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What I think Autism is, is this...

there are some left handed people but ther eare more right handed people in the world... Since more are right handed than left, society as a whole is geared to right handedness...

A NT mindset... more emotional, less logical
A ASD mindset... more logic, less emotion

thus...

you are watching a war film and notice the cameraman is not getting shot...
the NT will probally ask others why he is not getting shot... looking for the answer outward...
the ASD will probally look for the answer within..

ok, that in mind....

4 people..
one is a lot of logic/reasoning and high emotional intelligence = genius
one is high logic and low emotional intelligence = ASD spectrum, abnormal
one is low logic and high emotional intelligence = NT's, most common so they are the 'standard' of normal
the last one is low logic and low emotional intelligence = low functioning ASD + low functioning NT, depending which is more dominate, the emotion or logic part of the brain...

Thus...

It seems that ASD is like it mirrors NT... like what left handed is to right handed...

for example..

It seems that NT's also has meltdowns just like ASD'ers...
Intense emotional situations an NT experiences sends them into a meltdown, just as an ASD would experience...

A couple, both NT's, the guy finds out his woman is sleeping with the neighbor... goes crazy and aggressive... totally emotional stuff and assasults the guy and beats his woman... A situation he can not cope with... An ASD'er would have a meltdown which would be inward directed, a NT would have it diercted outward...

NT = usually always someone else 'caused' them to do this or that.... reacting emotionally to a situation provoking something within... spats with other people and stuff liek that...

ASD = usually always your own worse critic.... reacting logic/reason to a situation from external sources... self guilt, etc...


Society is just trying to tie up my left hand and force me to do everything right handed, either by psychological babble, psychotic drugs or other means.... It would be better if they were a bit more ASSD friendly instead of changing us drom ASD to some sort of mental/emotional frankenstein with grafted NT parts glued in by psychothrapy, drugs or other methods from a NT perspective...



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22 Apr 2009, 10:11 pm

Good article.

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new theory of autism that suggests that the brains of people with autism are structurally normal but dysregulated, meaning symptoms of the disorder might be reversible.


yeah, like i didn't know that already :wink:

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The new theory stems from decades of anecdotal observations that some autistic children seem to improve when they have a fever, only to regress when the fever ebbs. A 2007 study in the journal Pediatrics took a more rigorous look at fever and autism, observing autistic children during and after fever episodes and comparing their behavior with autistic children who didn't have fevers. This study documented that autistic children experience behavior changes during fever.


when that study came out the lead scientist said that the fever effect was definitely caused by the immunological response that comes with the fever, it couldn't be the heat, he said, he was sure of that. And i'll forever wonder how can someone come so close to the scientific discovery of the decade and just blink? Why did it seem so impossible to him? but then again, it took me almost 2 years to accept it, so i'm no better.

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Drs. Purpura and Mehler believe that, in autistic children, fever stimulates the LC-NA system, temporarily restoring its normal regulatory function. "This could not happen if autism was caused by a lesion or some structural abnormality of the brain,"


That's starting to sound like my heat theory, looks like scientists have been getting wiser lately... They are a few steps away from realizing that heating up the brain cures autism. Luckily scientists are very slow at giving steps, but on the other hand i think i want them to figure it out, it would back me up and it would be interesting to see what techniques they use to heat the brain, they certainly wouldn't think of mine, no, even when it's already on their biology and survival books, no, they are centuries away from something so far ahead as my cure.

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You can't take a complex neuropsychiatric disease that has escaped our understanding for 50 years and in one fell swoop have a therapy that is going to reverse it — that's folly.

ha! =D


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24 Apr 2009, 2:30 am

I don't get this at all. Haven't these scientists ever seen a picture of the Aspie and or other Autism Spectrum disorder brain next to the NT brain??? it's very different. There is no way to reverse Autism.