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23 Aug 2011, 6:56 pm

^^^

sorry ?


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23 Aug 2011, 7:01 pm

aussiebloke wrote:
^^^

sorry ?


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24 Aug 2011, 1:15 pm

I don't give a f**k about every dumb s**t that says something stupid, and people who do are making their lives unnecessarily difficult.



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24 Aug 2011, 1:44 pm

So was Thomas Edison stupid for asking his teacher all those stupid questions?



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24 Aug 2011, 2:07 pm

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So was Thomas Edison stupid for asking his teacher all those stupid questions?


Must you always use an argument from authority fallacy?



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24 Aug 2011, 2:48 pm

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Autistics are immediately denounced as idiots for being slow learners. Didn't anyone ever tell the teachers that slow and steady wins the race?


That is how I see it in my eyes, besides it seems like that could explain why relationships and having a Love life is more diffcult, sometimes it is on the bounds that NTs want that stuff too quickly, I mean face it, I have had 3 girlfriends in the past, but I may never get another one for at least 10 years due to the fact our world is about to go to war and our economy is going to be killed off, last thing I see is people wanting a HUGE drop in the human population, something that is already being threatened to anyone with the Autism Spectrum.



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24 Aug 2011, 3:41 pm

...don't despair...it may not be very nice, but it is true that war is the greatest of aphrodisiacs...

It was WWI and II that finally broke the mould of "suitable" or "arranged" marriages and began people relating in impulse.



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24 Aug 2011, 3:44 pm

Jeffrey228 wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
Autistics are immediately denounced as idiots for being slow learners. Didn't anyone ever tell the teachers that slow and steady wins the race?


I am not a slow learner. :/ Quit trying to dress up everything in to a mould of superiority and apply it to everyone.



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24 Aug 2011, 10:50 pm

I think many will share, that learning difficulties are apparent within ASD. Not everyone on the spectrum suffers from learning difficulties. For those folk who do not, they speak from a privileged position.

Systemic pedagogy, as strategies of learning favours literacy over other forms of communication. Possibly an acelerated approach would be to introduce information according to an individuals interests. Speech is often advanced for people with AS. Whether they have learning difficulties or not. Although some people within the Asperger's diagnosis may also suffer from speech difficulties. There is no general rule.

Does everyone have equal value, yes, because if we don't, then we are talking about social injustice, and the inequality of human rights.

As we now know that this is the case, people with a diagnosed ASD should rightly be accepted for their unique abilities and disabilities. As a community, we need to become a model of humanism in action.

If we can achieve this then leverage is gained in offering support to those in need.

Support is important as the financial cost to each family for those who experience disablity is great over the period of their life cycle.

For people who have an ASD and also have children with ASD, the impact is even greater.

Unemployment, co-morbid conditions, and family separaton, due to divorse, or estrangement may be experienced.

Consideration of these aspects of the spectrum, should rightly be observed from both within the ASD community itself, and from Human Services in general.

To raise awareness of the Life-cycle difficulty on the spectrum, is an important social issue. Celebrating our unique abilities is also important for personal health and the communal health of our social networks.

Thank you for reading my post!



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25 Aug 2011, 12:39 am

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As a community, we need to become a model of humanism in action.



Do we now?

Speak for yourself, there are diverse agendas on this forum and deciding who we support and who we choose not to are matters for individual members.

Hand wringing, platitudes, superficial statements and wooly thinking do nothing to focus on the real issues nor do they offer opportunities or solutions.

PS Divorce is spelt with a "c" in Australia.



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25 Aug 2011, 12:50 am

Self-defeatism enact in philosophy does nothing for progress nor does depending on what some here refer to the autism community. It is quite dysfunctional online, is not inspired easily and is to focused on an impossible world-world view to reconcile and the result is an ambiguous them vs. us complex to fit in. I find it a mental wasteland in some parts of a social failing designed to agree with itself and no more. That's why I never depended on it and in addition those whom participate are so easily discredited in their destructive at times desires at anything they choose not to in any small way agree with and many times because they do not control the will of another yet think they have a chance at doing so. I'll stick with the real autism community whom is credible and that is parents, self-advocates and in general organization in the real world beyond the grand psycho-social complex of a divide holding progress back.

I hope only to post potential antidotes to the problems to the lack of positive creative thinking.


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25 Aug 2011, 12:53 am

ci wrote:
Self-defeatism enact in philosophy does nothing for progress nor does depending on what some here refer to the autism community. It is quite dysfunctional online, is not inspired easily and is to focused on an impossible world-world view to reconcile and the result is an ambiguous them vs. us complex to fit in. I find it a mental wasteland in some parts of a social failing designed to agree with itself and no more. That's why I never depended on it and in addition those whom participate are so easily discredited in their destructive at times desires at anything they choose not to in any small way agree with and many times because they do not control the will of another yet think they have a chance at doing so. I'll stick with the real autism community whom is credible and that is parents, self-advocates and in general organization in the real world beyond the grand psycho-social complex of a divide holding progress back.

I hope only to post potential antidotes to the problems to the lack of positive creative thinking.


Sorry Ci

I have decided to ignore you from now on.



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25 Aug 2011, 12:58 am

Ok then. I'll be pleasant and finally welcome you to the Autism Religion. I was here first though since I was born and am enlightened. So if you want to fit with me your going to have to have some brain surgery. A JOKE!


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25 Aug 2011, 2:32 am

Gallowglass wrote:
Art-sung wrote:
As a community, we need to become a model of humanism in action.



Do we now?

Speak for yourself, there are diverse agendas on this forum and deciding who we support and who we choose not to are matters for individual members.

Hand wringing, platitudes, superficial statements and wooly thinking do nothing to focus on the real issues nor do they offer opportunities or solutions.

PS Divorce is spelt with a "c" in Australia.


Hello Gallowglass,

I was speaking from my side.

"There are diverse agendas on this forum and deciding who we support and who we choose not to are matters for individual members." I am sorry did you think I was suggesting support of someone?

What are the real issues?

And thank you for correcting my spelling. This seems to be an ongoing issue.

Will only perfect posts be acceptable?

Why are some people so picky, I have already explained learning difficulties.......on the spectrum. It does not come naturally for me. I often can not see the word picture. My mind see's other visual content such as spaciality.

Please do post in reply as I am asking these questions in sincerity.

Thank you in advance.



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25 Aug 2011, 3:20 am

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Please do post in reply as I am asking these questions in sincerity.Thank you in advance.



I think not, as the spectacle that you instigated yesterday indicates that you need to work on your capacity for reasoned discourse.

Therefore, I do not wish to interact with you.

PS I have just spoken to the Australian Sports Commission and apparently they neither license nor register life coaches. I suggest that you get in touch with them as they were rather upset that their good name was being dragged through the mud here.



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25 Aug 2011, 3:51 am

Wow!

Did you really,......Hmm!

You are very wrong to involve yourself in my personal business.

This is absolutely bad conduct on your behalf.



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