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sgrannel
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05 Jun 2011, 10:03 pm

Oodain wrote:
thing here is the pollution from cigarette smoke is so small i cant even come up with an analogy that works, if you want to go to that extent most materials we know today would become illegal.


Outside, yes. But then again, nobody is allowed to bring their car or motorcycle into a restaurant and run the engine while eating either, and for good reason. A mouse turd, outside, is tiny compared to whatever else is lying about. That same mouse turd, if brought indoors and placed into the punch bowl, no longer seems so tiny, and it can sicken even those individuals who have grown so accustomed to drinking similarly contaminated punch that they can't taste the contaminant.

OK, here's a link of interest for those of you who think secondhand smoke is harmless:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41911462/ns/health-cancer/from/toolbar

Nicotine in toenails is used as a marker for total smoke exposure. Actual smoke exposure differs from reported smoking habits, due to the secondhand smoke exposure and various other factors. Remember, nicotine is only used as a marker, and all data were taken before the e-cigarette became available. Results post-e-cigarette might show a group of people with high nicotine levels and a low cancer risk.

Quoting: "In fact, the researchers found more than 10 percent of men who had the highest levels of nicotine in their toenail clippings had never smoked." This means that, in some instances, people who describe themselves as nonsmokers are receiving secondhand doses of smoke that are at least comparable to the total doses received by smokers. This might explain incidences of lung cancer in some individuals who describe themselves as nonsmokers.

People with the highest nicotine levels had 3.5 times the cancer risk of those with low levels. It appears that the additional cancer risk, for anyone who inhales large amounts of cigarette smoke, due to exposure to carcinogens which are correlated with nicotine accumulation, is about 2.5 times greater than the total baseline risk from dust, auto exhaust, radon, and whatever else, combined. The baseline risk is presumed to be common to both groups. Furthermore, smoking disables the cilia, which function to protect against dust and pathogens, thus leaving anyone who breathes the smoke more susceptible to dusts including asbestos, and pneumonia, too.

The one nonsmoker who has lung cancer, with whom I'm personally acquainted, was married to a smoker and lived with other people who smoked. That's just one data point, so it doesn't prove anything, but I thought I'd just mention it.


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