Oh how I love the ignorance...
Hypocrisy. That seems familiar...
Mea culpa, that should have read. Please do disagree. but do not feel the need to correct another adult.
Using Mea Culpa as an excuse for hypocrisy. THat also sounds familiar... Also, are you just ignoring what we say now?
Freedom of speech
I do not agree with what you say, nor how you say it.
Tell me why I should listen to you?
I have received warm welcomes from others on the forum, both before and since yesterday!
I also notice that only a small number of members actually post! There are 54.000 plus members.
Translation:
I don't agree with what is clearly true nor your frank method of saying it.
I should tell you that I am going to ignore you because that's somehow an argument.
I am going to talk about something irrelevant to distact you.
I am going to " " " " " " " .
Sweetleaf
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Age: 36
Gender: Female
Posts: 35,278
Location: Somewhere in Colorado
Ok I tried reading back to find what Art-sung did to be attacked by over two people and could not find it...why don't you all give this poster a break. With all due respect I think its possible some of you misunderstood what this poster was trying to say, and should chill. Remember this is a support site not a gang up on the poster who worded things in a way you don't particularly like site that is what myspace is for.
I don't think Art-sung had any sinister motives, so quit nit-picking and trying to read all that stuff into what people post.
just my opinion, do as you will...just seems kind of unfair.
I don't think Art-sung had any sinister motives, so quit nit-picking and trying to read all that stuff into what people post.
just my opinion, do as you will...just seems kind of unfair.
He told me that I can't tell him why he is wrong because he is an adult and you can't find anything wrong? Also thinking that just because we're two guys and he's one that we're ganging up on him is quite a big damned logical fallacy sweetleaf. We were lied to many times over. It's clear in excepts from his posts. If anything annoying multiple people for no reason could be a sign that he is doing something wrong, which given what I just said is right.
Also why are you saying that we should chill? Persistence =\= Anger
AlanTuring
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Joined: 3 Jul 2011
Age: 69
Gender: Male
Posts: 302
Location: Twin Cities, Minnesota, USA
If he makes errors in spelling, punctuation, or grammar, I will not correct him.
If he makes errors in statements of fact, I will correct him.
If he expresses opinions that I think are wrong, I will correct him, which he is free to interpret as a disagreement.
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Diagnosed: OCD, Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Dysthemia
Undiagnosed: AS (Aspie: 176/200, NT: 37/200)
High functioning, software engineer, algorithms, cats, books
Well I've seen a crude and simple equation to that effect on message boards:
Average number of active users = Total users ^ 0.5 (since I can't easily type in a square root symbol
So if that's right, there's only about 232 active users on average. By active, meaning they lurk frequently here at least. Unfortunately, you need more variables to make it more precise like growth rate, ban rate, sockpuppets, demographics, and board age (as new forums could spark a peak in interest and diminish over time).
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"Have a nice apocalypse" - Southland Tales
Do we now?
Speak for yourself, there are diverse agendas on this forum and deciding who we support and who we choose not to are matters for individual members.
Hand wringing, platitudes, superficial statements and wooly thinking do nothing to focus on the real issues nor do they offer opportunities or solutions.
PS Divorce is spelt with a "c" in Australia.
Hello Gallowglass,
I was speaking from my side.
"There are diverse agendas on this forum and deciding who we support and who we choose not to are matters for individual members." I am sorry did you think I was suggesting support of someone?
What are the real issues?
And thank you for correcting my spelling. This seems to be an ongoing issue.
Will only perfect posts be acceptable?
Why are some people so picky, I have already explained learning difficulties.......on the spectrum. It does not come naturally for me. I often can not see the word picture. My mind see's other visual content such as spaciality.
Please do post in reply as I am asking these questions in sincerity.
Thank you in advance.
I'd like to quote a Keatingism (greatest world treasurer Euro Money Magazine )
Just because you swallowed a *&(^&*( *&(^&* dictionary when you were about 15 doesn't give you the right to pour a bucket of %^&* on the rest of us.
www.gwb.com.au/gwb/news/special/scumbag.html -
Not attacking anyone I'm just dumbfounded by the ego's (Texas) around here and some of you ask yourselves why you have no friends, seriously I don't think I'd want to meet any of you.
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Good Morning/or Evening.
Some of you believe I am a liar! Please read my first post under, G'DAY, I introduce myself there.
I understand that some professionals here can not, or do not wish to talk about their respective credentials. I would not personally ask something of another that I am not prepared to do myself, thats mens-business.
I was asked to explain myself and I did. People asked me about which universities I had studied at, and then I was shot down in that regard too.
I was not aware that this was an issue here. As a social support network, I was under the belief that people with ASD would be supported both in there qualifications and life experience. Why not, where is the harm?
Many of us have come a long way in terms of both function and social interaction. these are approaches to personal success.
Lets celebrate it!
My understanding of success may differ from yours. I am personally happy with myself. I am also aware of my limitations.
As I mentioned, I did not introduce myself as a clinical therapist. I introduced myself as a self advocate and a Life Coach. In Life Coaching we do not delve into past issues or psyhological conditions. Clinical professionals are trained in this regard. Rather, in Life Coaching we start from the present and move forward in relation to goal setting and incremental success. This is similar in spirit with Sports Coaching. I personally find this approach refeshing.
I would also like to hear how other folk progress, and celebrate their success with them. [positive social networks]
I do not post to establish authority, I posted in the open spirit of sharing. You may not believe me on that issue. That is your right to do so.
Argue with your own points, you do not need to pick at others views, I was brought up that this was disrespectful.
I am aware of learning circles, which are establish in both traditional cultures and contemporary settings. When someone shares their respective view. Others do not attack them. Rather they speak from their own experience. A consensus takes shape in time.
In this way all members of the circle/social network share respect, equality and recieve support. This, of course, is only one such model.
In Australia we call this passing the message stick. I believe Canadian Aboriginals, and First Nation people of America also do this.
The model I observe here is people correcting each others views, this is very Eurocentric. Society has made this mistake since Palaeolithic times. Other societies have developed models for social harmony. I am not saying that I do not descend from Europeans, I only offer a different view.
I do not agree with some of you. I do not uphold your approach to social networking.
Just a few thoughts from myside, you are free to disagree with me.
So the Westminster system of parliamentary debate is a mistake and you prefer a system of dictatorship by the windbag? This purpose of this forum is meaningful debate and effective scrutiny of ideas and theories. If you want to be treated with kid gloves, I suggest that you post in the "haven" part of the site.
You opened this Pandora's box by setting yourself up as an authority and then, when evidence to support your credibility was reasonably requested, thinking that,citing your lack lustre ( and somewhat misleading)credentials, gave you the right to hector other users into supplying theirs.
You then decided to question the "deep motivations" of other users.
You then became beligerent and demanded a battle of wits.
Then, upon finding yourself unarmed in said battle, you decided to winge.
I do not care if you post or not but I do observe that with every post you make, your credibility (and my respect for you) declines accordingly.
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You will possibly reply that;
It is easy to attack and find fault in you.
Why do you misinterpret my posts on purpose?
Thank you for your advice on how I should respond to your posts.
My advice to you is that you have dug your own hole and seem content to persist in digging. The result is rather amusing but pathetic. I hope you do not coach people on strategy as your grasp of the subject appears somewhat flawed.
I also find your attemp to discourage female posters offensive.
When did posting on the web become "men's business"?
Having been on the receiving end of some of the very weak arguments and attempts I think what is forgotten is they have no army per say. They are words with no actual offline progress in their philosophies which are very personalized and once in a group highly unstable unless one conforms to the put downs and really wants to fit in with them. Sensibility, friendliness and critical thinking is refuted by them with modalities of sly-full hate speak imagining into things with absolutely no facts just intending destruction and venom of hatred and components of self-superiority.
If only they knew how they don't stand a chance in the real world with how they progress arguments. Only it was my mistake to take it seriously enough to bother replying. It's how they feed on others self-esteems and hopes.
I myself work with allot of females and no gender politics ever comes up.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
Some of you believe I am a liar! Please read my first post under, G'DAY, I introduce myself there.
I understand that some professionals here can not, or do not wish to talk about their respective credentials. I would not personally ask something of another that I am not prepared to do myself, thats mens-business.
I was asked to explain myself and I did. People asked me about which universities I had studied at, and then I was shot down in that regard too.
I was not aware that this was an issue here. As a social support network, I was under the belief that people with ASD would be supported both in there qualifications and life experience. Why not, where is the harm?
Many of us have come a long way in terms of both function and social interaction. these are approaches to personal success.
Lets celebrate it!
My understanding of success may differ from yours. I am personally happy with myself. I am also aware of my limitations.
As I mentioned, I did not introduce myself as a clinical therapist. I introduced myself as a self advocate and a Life Coach. In Life Coaching we do not delve into past issues or psyhological conditions. Clinical professionals are trained in this regard. Rather, in Life Coaching we start from the present and move forward in relation to goal setting and incremental success. This is similar in spirit with Sports Coaching. I personally find this approach refeshing.
I would also like to hear how other folk progress, and celebrate their success with them. [positive social networks]
I do not post to establish authority, I posted in the open spirit of sharing. You may not believe me on that issue. That is your right to do so.
Argue with your own points, you do not need to pick at others views, I was brought up that this was disrespectful.
I am aware of learning circles, which are establish in both traditional cultures and contemporary settings. When someone shares their respective view. Others do not attack them. Rather they speak from their own experience. A consensus takes shape in time.
In this way all members of the circle/social network share respect, equality and recieve support. This, of course, is only one such model.
In Australia we call this passing the message stick. I believe Canadian Aboriginals, and First Nation people of America also do this.
The model I observe here is people correcting each others views, this is very Eurocentric. Society has made this mistake since Palaeolithic times. Other societies have developed models for social harmony. I am not saying that I do not descend from Europeans, I only offer a different view.
I do not agree with some of you. I do not uphold your approach to social networking.
Just a few thoughts from myside, you are free to disagree with me.
Just a thought? Have you considered that the world may not revolve around you and your egocenticity may be a bit of an issue?
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People speak from their own perspectives however when others try to remove the choices of others with their autism related choices because they don't like it for their own lives this is self-centered. Some people were raised rude, some to be nice and some are just hateful people that cannot stand others who are not like them. That's the point of diversity both in ones developmental conditions and also neurology. One cannot exist without the other.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
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