autism supremacy is a need
Yes. I don't want you dead. You have some seriously twisted thoughts on NTs, but I do not wish death on you. I did say you were too young to think about these things.
Seriously, I think ci is a terrible individual with secret political agendas, but even I don't want him dead. Or even banned for that matter, as I said much earlier in my posting career.
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Not really a political agenda aside from opportunity inclusion. If you look at what I write I tell you the faulty strategy of others. This to prevent backlash and to better assure others get the help they need. Innocent here and unlike ASAN I discuss strategy openly. Perhaps ASANS board and ARI should come here for a chat. I can help them fix most of the mess and here are some suggestions.
1. Publicly drop the abortion issue from the central organization so as not to mix it with other issues.
2. Allow a diversity of ideas and opinions to be projected from the central platform.
3. Enact voting on issues of importance to self-advocates in the organization that are important to them collectively.
The above three would increase loyalty, revenue and remove bias.
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1. Publicly drop the abortion issue from the central organization so as not to mix it with other issues.
2. Allow a diversity of ideas and opinions to be projected from the central platform.
3. Enact voting on issues of importance to self-advocates in the organization that are important to them collectively.
The above three would increase loyalty, revenue and remove bias.
Right, it does not LOOK like you have a political agenda. That is why I said it was SECRET. Except to me. I forgot to mention your enormously large ego as well.
What is ARI? Please tell me that is not the Autism Research Institute...you are from California so this shuddering thought might be right...
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"You just like to go around rebuking people with your ravenous wolf face and snarling commentary." - Ragtime
Everyone has ego. In writing to show confidence, sensible resolve and ethical purpose is a leadership style. Your the guy with the wolf avatar so you might just want to be the alpha male. My secret strategy is no longer that secret after this post but I have hinted at it before. It's called democracy in self-advocacy organizations. As far as California I've lived on the East Coast, in Hawaii and Guam as well California from Southern to Northern parts of the state. Wherever my father was stationed. I do the autism inclusion advocacy in the media where I live and my dad does the disabled veterans advocacy.
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1. Publicly drop the abortion issue from the central organization so as not to mix it with other issues.
2. Allow a diversity of ideas and opinions to be projected from the central platform.
3. Enact voting on issues of importance to self-advocates in the organization that are important to them collectively.
The above three would increase loyalty, revenue and remove bias.
I'm not an ASAN supporter but what you say is false in every way. I even doubt that you are really autistic ci, it seems like a perfect plot to pretend to be autistic so you can demean and tyrannize over autistic people. I have actually never seen any other face of your organization ci, why don't other people support it. You always argue well but alone. nobody else besides you seems to run things. and to top it all you believe in killing autistic babies too...
Again it's not the talk about hacking that is the problem, it is the talk about bringing segments of society down, supporting illegal activities of others, suggesting that illegal activity is justified and suggesting that others follow in the footsteps of those that are participating in illegal activity, that is the problem. You've got the freedom of speech to talk about all these things. It's your decision, on whether or not be concerned about who might be listening and what the potential results might be later on down the line. We are completely calm here, offering what we think is good advice. If you don't believe us, research it, and find out if there is need for concern. If you care to research the topic, I suggest you start with the Patriot Act.
well you are probably right... I still hate NTs though. the problem with bringing down society is that there are aspergers people who coexist with NTs so most of it is just talk. what you need to keep in mind when talking to me is that I am only sane half the time anyway. Can't really remember half the things mentioned although I do remember the post that misled people, I think I pretty much admitted that the post was stupid and misleading so argument over.
No argument from here, just advice; I'm glad that you understand that society is full of people other than NT's.
One more suggestion, if I may. It's not a good idea to promote the Cleary hacking incident on your website, as an example to follow for other people with Autism; if not for your own protection, the protection of someone impressionable, possibly doing something to get themselves in real trouble with the law, by taking your advice. I don't see any other serious problems on your site, and I'm not trying to tell you what to do, just a suggestion to remove that particular comment. The other comments on your site don't suggest illegal activity as a solution to adversity.
See, I did not want to say that, and was hoping someone else will pick up on that.
I missed that part about killing babies, but you NEVER say someone does not have autism. You don't know that, and I think it is offensive no matter who you say it to.
Again, what does ARI mean, ci?
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"You just like to go around rebuking people with your ravenous wolf face and snarling commentary." - Ragtime
1. Publicly drop the abortion issue from the central organization so as not to mix it with other issues.
2. Allow a diversity of ideas and opinions to be projected from the central platform.
3. Enact voting on issues of importance to self-advocates in the organization that are important to them collectively.
The above three would increase loyalty, revenue and remove bias.
I'm not an ASAN supporter but what you say is false in every way. I even doubt that you are really autistic ci, it seems like a perfect plot to pretend to be autistic so you can demean and tyrannize over autistic people. I have actually never seen any other face of your organization ci, why don't other people support it. You always argue well but alone. nobody else besides you seems to run things. and to top it all you believe in killing autistic babies too...
Your the kind of self-advocate heavily involved in abortion advocacy. To you I'm a Nazi for not agreeing with you to the point of demanding people change abortion laws. Yet somehow I'm guilty of being a dictator for seeking that people autism have the right to diverse opinions in the eyes of the public. As far as my organization for employment which is not involved in much of anything else aside from inclusion advocacy 17,000 handmade candles later there are plenty of people that support the organization. I just don't think you get it and play the victim of your own style. Victim-hood is your tact and there is always a conspiracy by Nazi-like people. The classic you do not have autism because you disagree is being used here as well. If I do not conform I'm not one of the aspies but an N.T who by the way you claim to hate.
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See, I did not want to say that, and was hoping someone else will pick up on that.
I missed that part about killing babies, but you NEVER say someone does not have autism. You don't know that, and I think it is offensive no matter who you say it to.
Again, what does ARI mean, ci?
I forgot. Ari is the president of ASAN. Basically it's a network dictated by his decisions and the boards and not democratic voting by the members. It should in my opinion rather be a facilitation for the members utilizing it's popularity for a diversity of idea and opinion. So it is more so an isolated network yet has positioned itself in PR as THE Autism Self-Advocacy Network. It's leadership style currently I believe may be a potential advocacy threat to some or more kinds of progress.
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice. http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
You are just as guilty of saying that to other people (at least implicitly). No one should be saying that to anyone. No one at all.
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Well, you said you were 15, so this might be some phase...which just so happens requires soap-on-a-rope and a jumpsuit. You are much too young to be even thinking about this kind of stuff, and I do not think you understand the gravity of what you are saying.
Wait how is 15 too young to think about stuff like that? how sheltered to you expect most people to be? I was thinking of some pretty complex things when I was 15......though I would say I was more sheltered then I would have liked to be I mean I did not even know what marijuna was. And I did not know much about the internet in general or anything about hacking.
I put the lower limit at 18. When kids start killing themselves at 12 (heard at least three in my area so far), there is some concern there.
Well I would be concerned about that, but my concern would not include 'oh they aren't even old enough to think about that' because well clearly they are if they are killing themselves.....I would be concerned about why a 12 year old would feel they need to kill themself.
That as well. Thank goodness anti-bullying campaigns are in effect...somewhat.
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"You just like to go around rebuking people with your ravenous wolf face and snarling commentary." - Ragtime
No when I said that may be the case was because this is the internet and some folks freaked out. Asking me to believe in a fact that cannot be proven is akin to fibing. I cannot simply denote who has autism and who does not have autism online. Sometimes with what is said especially with the threats of violence and threatening potential criminal activities I could only hope it's someone just trying to make people with autism look bad. As an autism self-advocacy community we got to have standards. Believing everything everyone says I think is a fault and not speaking against very bad examples whenever possible reduces collective advocacy potentials.
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See, I did not want to say that, and was hoping someone else will pick up on that.
I missed that part about killing babies, but you NEVER say someone does not have autism. You don't know that, and I think it is offensive no matter who you say it to.
Again, what does ARI mean, ci?
I forgot. Ari is the president of ASAN. Basically it's a network dictated by his decisions and the boards and not democratic voting by the members. It should in my opinion rather be a facilitation for the members utilizing it's popularity for a diversity of idea and opinion. So it is more so an isolated network yet has positioned itself in PR as THE Autism Self-Advocacy Network. It's leadership style currently I believe may be a potential advocacy threat to some or more kinds of progress.
If its isolated then how come 60% of people support neurodiversity? how come ASAN is very popular on facebook and they have a website that is well kept up and much easier to use and more transparent than yours?
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That as well. Thank goodness anti-bullying campaigns are in effect...somewhat.
And a lot of those are a joke.....its a nice thought but its not working, I mean I have been done with highschool since 2008....but I know some people who are still high school aged who went to my highschool(up until they where either kicked out or decided to drop out based on how they where treated by the school staff and sometimes students). For instance they litterally try to make peoples lives hell. Like this girl was telling me they actually 'take' students credits meaning they go to class, get the grade and get the credit and then if the staff does not like something the person does or just does not like them in general they will erase the credits these kids earned. So much for their anti-bullying policies.
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That as well. Thank goodness anti-bullying campaigns are in effect...somewhat.
And a lot of those are a joke.....its a nice thought but its not working, I mean I have been done with highschool since 2008....but I know some people who are still high school aged who went to my highschool(up until they where either kicked out or decided to drop out based on how they where treated by the school staff and sometimes students). For instance they litterally try to make peoples lives hell. Like this girl was telling me they actually 'take' students credits meaning they go to class, get the grade and get the credit and then if the staff does not like something the person does or just does not like them in general they will erase the credits these kids earned. So much for their anti-bullying policies.
and you see that just sounds exactly like something NTs would do. I would say if there is no needless social interaction then there is no problem.
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