"Autism Speaks" Response to Autistic Input

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Well I used to agree with people like you in part years ago when I didn't have supports until they attacked my efforts and achievements then I realized they were not in my best interest after all.

Nope, you are *ALL* head games and tactics...and, as you are not very good at it, any fool and his brother can see that for themselves...

...and unless my eyes decieve me you are currently actually trying to accuse me of *INSULTING* you by suggesting you are in the employ of "Autism Speaks", an organisation you have just expended thousands of words on promoting, lauding, praising and manipulating on behalf of...

If it is such an *INSULT* to suggest you work for them, maybe you shouldn't have wasted so much time on that?

More tactics...but no substance...

You do realise you have completely given yourself away now?

Back on topic, my intention was to post the major points discussed so far in this topic, but accidentally put them in the other topic regarding this issue:

1.The coming crisis of several hundred thousand children, entering the adultworld that likely will need assistance to live, as they leave the homes of their family.

2. Costs of care for autistic people that are disabled and have to have assistance to survive within society.

3. Improving the living assistance that is available.

4. Alternative residential care programs like Farmsteads.

5. Potential contigencies in the future, if social programs are cut that permanently disabled autistic people rely on.

6. Information on organizations other than Autism Speaks that are of potential assistance to autistic people.

7. An interesting new camp program that Autism Speaks provided last year; the pros and cons of camps for autistic children.

8. A discussion on whether or not some Autistic people can break the stereotype that they don't do well in groups.

9. The neurodiversity movement; the pros and cons of it.

10. The social vs medical model for those that are disabled.

11. The pros and cons of the ASAN organization.

12. The pros and cons of the Autism Speaks organization.

13. Resources on the general disability rights movement.

14. The advantages of providing constructive criticism to Autism Speaks to help other Autistic people

I see the biggest area of concern here, as the hundreds of thousands of autistic people entering the adult world, and how they will find support in the future. Children have been the main focus of the Autism Speaks organization in the past as has been pointed out in this thread, along with many other organizations.

Social programs may continue to exist to support Autistic people that need the help, but the problem goes much further than that with over a million people with Autism that are already adults, many of which qualify for no assistance.

A good area of constructive suggestion to give to the organization, to improve the effort that has just begun, in this area, along with other organizations that are working to solve the problem.

I support Autism Speaks. They are non autistic, professional fund raisers, their target market is non autistic parents, and their focus is on autistic children.

ASAN would be a better group if thousands of autistic six year olds ran it.

I am one of those million autistics that were never anything but a problem to most, so I like the idea that children now get support, and the condition is blamed on the condition, not the child.

I am easy to please when you agree with me.

If Autism Speaks had a plan for adults such as myself, I am sure I would disagree, everyone else that has tried, family, neighbors, employers, created disasters that did not have to happen.

Autism Speaks has wisely avoided such actions.

ASAN was not so intelligent, tried to hyjack my mind, become my Autistic Overlords, threatened me, insulted me, and I look forward to meeting them.

Now that the children have been identified, supported, and are growing up and will need some kind of lifetime support, what has worked for autistic adults is coming up as a question. There are a lot of us, we have expert knowledge.

Personally I have never tried Terrorism and Extortion, like ASAN, I just did more of what I was good at, and less of what did not work for me. Previous generations did the same. We found a place in life without support, and in the face of opposition. A lot of that has common factors.

We developed skills, knowledge, and focus, which came easy for us, and avoided fluid social situations we could not keep up with.

Looking back I see we started with the social pattern of old people, who tend to withdraw from the world as they age. We are just born that way.

When I was young, which seems a hundred years ago, people were less social, the focus of life was on home, place, and a limited world, in a small town. It was small, but we like all others had nothing to do with over 90% of the other people, we lived around each other. The County Fair was about the only thing that most attended, but not as a social event.

Our view of social people was they were all up to something, selling insurance, used cars, or politics, your instant best friend, and then gone. Like old country people, we kept them on the porch.

Autism is not far removed from the traditional life.

Modern life it seems the hucksters are everywhere, all selling something you do not want or need, imposing themselves in your private life, and pushing you to change your phone company or let ASAN be your Overlord.

In the old days we kept a few large hounds, they kept the city hucksters in their cars, they soon left, and as the dust settled, peace returned.

A larger question, not just how will autistic adults live, but what are the affects of this very recent modern life on all people?

In the words of Monty Burns, "Release the hounds!"

The hypocrisy behind the great walls of text that are ci's and aghogday's posts:

ASAN is a Terrorist group that has incited people to violent action against Autism Walks. They are Extortionists because they keep demanding money.

One point I agree with George Bush, "Terrorist do not get trials."

Your words are empty, just like your brain.

Your cause has failed, you are forever after the people who called for throwing rocks at grandmothers and parents on autism walks, who called for blood in the streets to further your extortionist agenda.

Once a terrorist, always a terrorist.

As an ASAN Troll you have shown clearly to many people that you have no idea of our common problems, the groups that are working together for a better life, and you reject everything and anything, to keep on ASAN script.

Please continue to discredit yourself and ASAN.