a plan to destroy autism speaks
Well, I am not sure if it has; the Illuminati, though, hadn't crossed my mind. Either way, those cons at Autism Speaks is far lesser than the KKK or the Illuminati.
your logic is perplexing
No. What I meant when I said "far lesser" is "way worse." And I meant "far lesser in terms of humanity."
I guess I should put it in words you understand more -- next time, I will make sure to take note of that.
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Well, I am not sure if it has; the Illuminati, though, hadn't crossed my mind. Either way, those cons at Autism Speaks is far lesser than the KKK or the Illuminati.
your logic is perplexing
No. What I meant when I said "far lesser" is "way worse." And I meant "far lesser in terms of humanity."
I guess I should put it in words you understand more -- next time, I will make sure to take note of that.
you have forgoten to compare autism speaks with the russian mafia,autism speaks must have a office in the brighton beach area of brooklyn.also georgian and ukrainian crime families are on the rise as well in brighton beach and jersey city,N.J
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There is no way of indicating "hat off" on a per post/thread basis and so when a moderator joins in as a member, he is just a member. This also means that because impartiality has clearly flown out the window (and really well done for spotting that) he will not be involved with any moderation that thread might require.
As for commenting officially - I can't officially speak as a moderator on any matter involving the funding of WP because the ToS says that moderators do not speak in an official capacity for WrongPlanet.net. That's it. Period.
You want to make a big case that it's important for members to know in detail who is funding WP, you're making me personally responsible for providing that information and because I don't bow to your demands and "spill the beans", you imply that I'm hiding something.
Unfortunately for your little game plan, I am simply not interested enough to investigate the actual situation because... I don't care, and because you're as capable of finding out as anyone else.
But why are you asking me when theimperiousdork has been ranting for pages about the Autism Speaks connection? Don't you believe him?
I seem to have spent most of my time asking theimperiousdork for substance to back his allegations and your demands for answers really should be directed to him, because he appears to have them all.
It's quite curious that you're happy to ignore this and despite my telling you I don't speak officially for WP, you attempt to corner me as if I do.
What I'm more interested in is people making hysterical accusations about anything which they then refuse to back with evidence.
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Oh wait - do you believe you're raising serious, realistic and debatable issues about Autism Speaks and I should therefore respect your evident intellectual capacity as someone serious?
I might, when I see any evidence of it existing but all I've seen so far is baseless, hysterical accusations.
That's hardly ad hominem (thanks for the definition, BTW) and it's not my problem if your claims are made worthless because you won't back them.
And rebutting your points? You petulantly dismiss as lies the links ahogday provided with nothing to show how they're lies and consequently, I have to wonder if you understand what "rebuttal" means.
But you do have a point to prove, yet you refuse to do so claiming that it's obvious and you don't need to.
That's ridiculous.
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And really, if you actually wanted an answer you would have already asked Alex.
Yet here you are anyway.
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So from what I see, you just don't care about knowing the answer to the question then, fair enough. That wasn't hard to do now wasn't it?
You could have saved us a bit of time by giving that straight answer to my question, but it seems you enjoy playing games just as much as I do.
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The Illuminati killed Michael Jackson, but as far as I know he wasn't autistic.
The KKK lost interest in him when he ceased to be black.

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You could have saved us a bit of time by giving that straight answer to my question, but it seems you enjoy playing games just as much as I do.
The only mistake I made was in responding at all to your attempted side-show.
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Their perception on low-functioning autism is vilifying at best, and it insults others on the spectrum, regardless of their degree of function. They are using their muscle to portray autism as if it were the most insidious disease known to man, and must be eradicated as soon as possible, hence the premise of misinformation. Of course, some people will believe them, and Autism Speaks takes advantage of the opportunity to defraud such people by soliciting donations, most of which goes into the pockets of the people running the black propaganda.
I didn't say that the vile group known as Autism Speaks murdered them directly. As I might have said already, they are a "hands-off" group, meaning they let others do the dirty work for them. For one, they pioneer in inciting to murder people with autism and experiment unorthodox "cures" that endanger autistics' lives, and incitement to do crime is by itself a criminal offence under most laws. I've read stories on autistics being murdered solely on the basis of their autism, and however sad it may be, most of these crimes were very unnecessary, and no thanks to the black propaganda issued by that criminal group, autistics continue to suffer vilification in the hands of the very people who are supposed to support them.
You have only said that you believe they are influencing people to abort if autism were ever able to be proven prenatally and that you dislike some treatment methods that researchers have come up with. None of that is criminal. It is not criminal to develop treatments for a disorder, even if some of the treatments are not effective or are painful. I'm not in favor of using an iffy treatment, but without those early iffy treatments, many times there isn't an eventual effective treatment later on.
We don't have a test to detect autism in untero. We do however have a test to detect Downs and many women abort for Downs. Why aren't you all on that, which is going on today, instead of some future possibility that autism speaks may one day have something or other to do with?
As far as I know, autism speaks doesn't say that autism is vile. They have always seemed to simply state the obvious, that it is an unfortunate anomoly that effects some children and they want to help that. If someone chooses to abort (if it's ever even possible to detect it prenatally that is) then that is up to her, just like it's up to the woman to choose whether or not to give birth in any situation. I am not for abortion itself. I think it's usually a pretty bad choice but because the baby is inside the mothers body, it is her choice for whatever reason she may have.
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You could have saved us a bit of time by giving that straight answer to my question, but it seems you enjoy playing games just as much as I do.
The only mistake I made was in responding at all to your attempted side-show.
Now you understand perfectly. Better luck next time.

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Do I have to say again in plain words, without the TL;DR nonsense like you are doing, that the fraudsters known as Autism Speaks have actually poisoned your mind? Clearly, you are becoming a spokesperson -- admit it or not, your posts say that you are one. Fruitless as some may perceive to be, you cannot stop me from blaring the horn that your favourite organisation is a massive fraud. It is no surprise that your Autism Speaks is no different from any other corporation in America -- with efficiency in brutality, deception, and fraud. I'm surprised, though, that your corporation is a "Best Brand." How much did they pay the people behind "Great American Brand Names"? Just like what they, as do any other desperately vain corporation, do with the BBB? No wonder the BBB is not reputable among many enlightened American consumers.
And yes, I agree with you that paranoid parents and supporters are sources of money for fraudsters like Autism Speaks. Not surprising, given the strategies they make -- black propaganda, con artistry -- kind of reminds me of Nigerian 419.
And back to your threat: I am not scared. Silence me, and you are proving my case right. Fight me, and it only makes things worse. Yes, the group of which you are a fan-boy has no criminal case -- well, none yet, which is disappointing, but unsurprising. Its black propaganda and its advocacy for unorthodox "cures" is quite enough to call it a criminal organisation. Though, people are waiting for it to make a wrong move, which I, concerned that I am, would suggest you warn your idols about at the Autism Mafia.
There will always be people reading this thread, and your empty threats do not scare me. Bring it on! This time, it's war!
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Well you can go with that if you want.
For a while, I would like to put all your idiotic remarks in quote, but I would guess I would call them out instead like how you call me out.
Yes, that tone of yours, Cornflake, is insolent. I heard nothing from you but flak. And "baseless, hysterical accusations" you say? Please, Cornflake. For one, it is a waste of energy to find a solution for a variable that has already been defined as a constant. That is exactly what I was trying to prove. And you really believe in their lies? Oh, goodness, you people are so pathetic!
It is not my job to prove whether a wolf is wearing sheep's clothing, because it is obviously a wolf. Plainly stated, I think it more than enough to say that those fraudsters are innately evil. What was established in an evil intent will remain innately evil.
Then, again, I offered unsolicited opinion on those fraudsters. Whether you agree with them or not is your own affair. But then, again, resorting to bashing the one giving the opinion is, in your own words, "infantile" and "baseless."
Oh, I am "the great accuser" now, am I? Good one, Cornflake. That is ridiculous.
As for you, Delphiki, I have said ad nauseam on how those fraudsters are a criminal organisation. Do I need to summarise them for you, so you comprehend them? By the way, that one was for aghogday, not for you.
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Well you can go with that if you want.
With pleasure, thank you very much.
I can just put those arguments in bullets, for everyone's convenience.
- Their view on autism as a gruesome "disease" and the need to eradicate it
- Their stance on eliminating autism from the human genome and eradicating those who already have autism
- Their use of black propaganda and grand deception to defraud gullible people of their money
- Their questionable wealth
- The very nature of the organisation and its founders (from corporate America, mind you)
- How they actually influenced or bribed those who named them one of the "best" organisations in town
- Their silencing their critics through corporate gag tactics (lawsuits, cease-and-desist orders, etc.)
Need I say more?
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With pleasure, thank you very much.
I can just put those arguments in bullets, for everyone's convenience.
- Their view on autism as a gruesome "disease" and the need to eradicate it
An opinion nor a stance on a particular disorder is not a crime. They have freedom of speech just as everyone else does.
- Their stance on eliminating autism from the human genome and eradicating those who already have autism
See above, holding a particular stance is not a crime.
- Their use of black propaganda and grand deception to defraud gullible people of their money
While their description of autism certainly doesn't apply in all cases, it does apply in some cases and therefore is not a deception, as these are the cases they are trying to help. Not a crime.
- Their questionable wealth
Not a crime.
- The very nature of the organisation and its founders (from corporate America, mind you)
The nature of the organization is criminal? Cites please.
- How they actually influenced or bribed those who named them one of the "best" organisations in town
Cites please.
- Their silencing their critics through corporate gag tactics (lawsuits, cease-and-desist orders, etc.)
Cites please.
Need I say more?
None of those are evidence of criminal activity. It may be activity that you disagree with, but it is not criminal.
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