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03 Nov 2010, 4:44 pm

In part because there really are people like that out there and it is not unreasonable for a parent or guardian to want to protect their child from them. They have a right and a responsibility to control who has access to their child.


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03 Nov 2010, 4:49 pm

Ah_Q wrote:
In part because there really are people like that out there and it is not unreasonable for a parent or guardian to want to protect their child from them. They have a right and a responsibility to control who has access to their child.


I get that, but there are also people who use phones to detonate bombs... Don't mean everyone with a phone will do that though, does it?

I'm a teenager myself BTW, and I've always related to adults better than my peers, that's why I'm so concerned with this.



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03 Nov 2010, 4:58 pm

I think it's paranoia. Parents are so paranoid that someone may be a pedophile, they don't want an adult hanging around their child. Blame it on the media.



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03 Nov 2010, 4:59 pm

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I think it's paranoia. Parents are so paranoid that someone may be a pedophile, they don't want an adult hanging around their child. Blame it on the media.


TBH, I think that sums it up. We're all too paranoid. We think everyone's out to get us these days.



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03 Nov 2010, 5:27 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
Ah_Q wrote:
In part because there really are people like that out there and it is not unreasonable for a parent or guardian to want to protect their child from them. They have a right and a responsibility to control who has access to their child.


I get that, but there are also people who use phones to detonate bombs... Don't mean everyone with a phone will do that though, does it?

It certainly doesn't and I think you're right for the most part. There's a big difference between being careful about who you're kid hangs out with and accusing someone of abuse without evidence. You and League Girl are correct, there is a witch hunt going on. The media and the general population have fixated upon a problem and blown it out of proportion to it's actual impact on society. It is a very destructive phenomenon; innocent people's lives and reputations have been ruined by it.


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03 Nov 2010, 5:34 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NesjvRihbEg[/youtube]

Here's some nice satire, we need satire :lol:



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03 Nov 2010, 5:42 pm

Brilliant, I was just thinking of that!


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03 Nov 2010, 10:42 pm

Ah_Q wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Ah_Q wrote:
In part because there really are people like that out there and it is not unreasonable for a parent or guardian to want to protect their child from them. They have a right and a responsibility to control who has access to their child.


I get that, but there are also people who use phones to detonate bombs... Don't mean everyone with a phone will do that though, does it?

It certainly doesn't and I think you're right for the most part. There's a big difference between being careful about who you're kid hangs out with and accusing someone of abuse without evidence. You and League Girl are correct, there is a witch hunt going on. The media and the general population have fixated upon a problem and blown it out of proportion to it's actual impact on society. It is a very destructive phenomenon; innocent people's lives and reputations have been ruined by it.



Witch hunt?

The problem is there have been cases where a man hang would out with a child and he end up hurting the child or where a man would hang out with a teen and they have sex. Of course women can do that too, it has also happened before. It would all end up in the media so it paints a picture in peoples minds that they can't trust any grown up with their child unless it's a relative or something. I also think it has given people the wrong idea that anyone who hangs out with a minor is a pedophile. Either that or they get nervous and don't trust the person and they don't want to take chances because of the what ifs.



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04 Nov 2010, 5:14 am

Ah_Q wrote:
In part because there really are people like that out there and it is not unreasonable for a parent or guardian to want to protect their child from them. They have a right and a responsibility to control who has access to their child.


They have the rights or the authority to do it? Legally they may still be a child. When a person is at a certain age where they can actually form decision and heck even come closer to financial independence, then it would be very much arguable that a 16 years old could be very much capable of forming decisions like the adults as seen into emancipated teenagers. They're young adults in that case.

This kind of belief is sort of increasing the age of rights slowly as seen as some of the incidents where a group of people 18-20 cannot be allowed roaming unless accompanied with 21 years old along with the fact that people are supporting the arbitrary claim that the 25 years old have a sufficiently developed brain when they don't have the neurobiological credentials behind up their you know where. I do believe if we keep up this attitude, we'll have plenty of 35 years old living with their parents and even dependent upon them (nothing wrong with that if the parents haven't done horrible things, but still). It happened in Italy from what I heard.

*Rants about the crap that people feeds on youth and this generation. Not going to change at all.



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04 Nov 2010, 10:15 pm

Nah, I don't think anything like that's happening. Most are not going to deny that there is a process of "letting go" that needs to happen as people get older in their teens. The process should be gradual, though, not a stone wall, "your an adult now, make your own decisions and live with the consequences." I happen to know some of these emancipated teens you speak of. Suffice to say they're a complete mess, sparing the gory details. Of course their parents are the kind of people who can't even take care of themselves, so really they're making the best of a crap situation. However, I would not uphold this arrangement as a model of emancipating teenagers into adulthood.


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04 Nov 2010, 11:02 pm

What's really sad is parents who flat out push their kids out of their lives and then make demands. For example my mom kicked me out of the house when I was 18 with a 3 day notice when I had no job, no money and no nothing. Forcing me to move in with the girl I had been with for maybe a month if even that. Two years later I'm back living with her (my mom) for the second time and she freaks out when I'm not home before midnight. Like WTF mom, you've had 500 days or so to get used to me not coming home early after you've told me to leave and it bothers you that there is a very small possibility I wrecked my car and died?

At least some parents stay consistent with their letting go.


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15 Nov 2010, 11:39 am

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That's true but when we have people like the three posters in this thread contributing to a witch hunt type atmosphere it never hurts to be extra cautious. The best advice: if you're an adult just stay the hell away from anyone underage that isn't your own child, if you can. Give people as few reasons to level a false accusation against you as possible, since false accusations of child molestation are, unfortunately, all too easy to make but very difficult to defend against.


I find that the witch hunt type atmosphere is so fierce that staying the hell away from children, as I do, is just not enough. You don't even have to be near children to get accused, because people jump to conclusions from certain visual, relationship and lifestyle criteria which extend far beyond whether you're near kids or not because the threat is perceived to be so universal. And what if kids don't always stay the hell away from you, a situation I know a handful of WP'ers have experienced? Any proximity to you by kids is worrying.



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15 Nov 2010, 11:50 am

You know, I saw on the news once that a pensioner was accused of being a paedophile because he took a photo of a kids' swimming pool... While it was empty.

Yes, that's right, if you take a photo of an empty swimming pool, you're a paedophile.



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15 Nov 2010, 11:59 am

I hear of BS like that and it goes to show something is just going to have to give very soon, it makes me wonder if society in the world is approaching tipping point some time soon. By the way it's far from being just the UK and other developed English speaking countries.