Autism Advocacy - Calling People Ignorant

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im not sure who are are refering to when you say people who insult others are insecure.cockney rebel calling me iliterate or politicians who use there disabled children to get votes of disabled voters or something rude or blunt i said or just all of the above.as far as advocates i know very little other than my father was a great advocate no by anything he said but in his last years used his ceo level accounting skills that could have easly pulled in 200 k a year to do accounting for a few group homes in massachusetts for a much lower salary.he was a silent yet profound advocate

I am used to some people who claim to have A.S put down others sometimes with superiority notions like they are smarter then others. It's why I don't trust people with A.S automatically who are able to integrate already with advocacy for myself and others. It's why I don't trust ASAN at face value because the protest seems demeaning. You know about advocacy to some extent. When you talk online about autism and comment about organizations it is advocacy.

ok.good post good thread i will retire from this thread,good points everyone

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Being the victim here won't work given your posting history. I asked that you provide the video and I want to assess it. Just like your sad face the parent may have had a melt down and said terrible things. I want fair discourse here and don't play a victim of my discovery conversations. My opinion is very high functioning advocates that are already integrated do not take into account those in more need when they act recklessly socially and politically. The world is a complicated place and the equilibrium is the tax-payers.

I have observed the political strategies on most sides of the autism politics. Nothing much gets past me. It's time for facts or get out of the way politics. I am the head of my party until I allow others to join. Its called The Humor and Rationalism for Autism Party.

You just made me laugh at myself. Let's get this thread back on track. I'll let you start over from here.

ok cockey rebel i interpreted sorry too

I am completely lost in the conversation.

Here for a short bit then back to projects.
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I shouldn't be worried. I think the public realizes or can come to realize that very high functioning advocates that call people ignorant, call specialized educational environments discrimination (Ari N.) and the wrong headed folks that wish to speak for me and others in the name of the true voice of autism are just one point of view. I think that so as long as pride demands views and others with autism and those representing those with more severe autism disagree the public won't be forced to view autism a certain way. It's unfortunate advocates wanting a piece of the PR of autism use such extreme measures and well that goes for each polar extreme. I am proud to say I don't need tactics of confrontation or claims of bigotry over silly words to engage views. I do it by means of mutual respect, dignity and understanding. The radicals at times believe any view but their own is bigotry, discrimination and intolerance and at the same time are representing anti-selective abortion politics.

Conflict of interest and views regardless of the emotions are rather clear. So as long as the organizations of the extremes promoting a network of advocacy do not in their dictation tolerate democracy in their projection of views they cannot define a whole. I want member self-advocates to be able to vote in organizations claiming to be self-advocacy networks otherwise the media should not take them seriously.

Where I live they have People First a democratic self-advocacy organization that I am told is nation-wide or state-wide.

I respect human beings and there's no shame in ignorance. I think the way the question is asked is wrong. I voted no.

The poll is blunt and confronts name calling. Despondency does not help many people. Anger creates devision and as a person with HFA a person with A.S called me ignorant. He claimed to be the Aspie perspective. When people call others ignorant for having their own ideas and opinions mature debate goes out the window. The idea for the topic was to confront mal productive social chit chat and be reasonable. So much can be done if people sought to get along better for those isolated, left out and truly discriminated against.

The autism community will be hearing more from me. I call it how it is, see through bull poopy and am constructive to find a middle ground. I am not a puzzle and no one ever called me a puzzle but they called a label a puzzle to help myself and others which is not insulting but honorable. Compassion is not pity and pride at times is way out of control and I don't fear one bit putting the extreme pride in it's place.

I view extremes as the source of despondency, lack of progress and what needs to be confronted for better outcomes.