Autism Extremism - Deprogramming Propagandistic Ideologies

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19 Mar 2011, 2:23 pm

There is pro-cure and anti-cure of course but since the extremes have become protectionistic and more of the said black and white we'd like to perhaps forget they exist to socially cope?

These manifestions of criminality and autism may be part of a larger strategy to "shut up" self-advocates within society. Or are part of an unrelated strategy to show autism as important to remedy. Needless to say it is popular to assume it would be unethical to portray someone as criminally prone since birth. There are unrelated scientific studies into the brain which have proven to be socially unpopular that essentially frame an individual. There has also been psychological "thriller perhaps" based movies concerning the subject potentially perceived as political statements within culture.

I'd be interested in hearing about and being part of the public relations of criminality by assumption for inborn differences.


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19 Mar 2011, 2:29 pm

ci wrote:
There is pro-cure and anti-cure of course but since the extremes have become protectionistic and more of the said black and white we'd like to perhaps forget they exist to socially cope?


no i full well know that they as groups exist, but i dont think the reason for the groups excistence has got a lot to do with a cure or lack thereof.
more with the political aspect of the issue and the mentality of the people involved.


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19 Mar 2011, 2:47 pm

Oodain wrote:
ci wrote:
There is pro-cure and anti-cure of course but since the extremes have become protectionistic and more of the said black and white we'd like to perhaps forget they exist to socially cope?


no i full well know that they as groups exist, but i dont think the reason for the groups excistence has got a lot to do with a cure or lack thereof.
more with the political aspect of the issue and the mentality of the people involved.


I'll treat this as a lone psychosocial complex and set it aside. Being subjective and objective for differing modes of perceptions and indirects. I will do this tonight or tomorrow then post it here.


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19 Mar 2011, 5:28 pm

I've consulted with several other people, and they concur that this character is likely a troll.

Future posters, you've been warned.


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19 Mar 2011, 5:58 pm

Bethie wrote:
I've consulted with several other people, and they concur that this character is likely a troll.

Future posters, you've been warned.


Which character? The previous person to me that I replied to?

The term troll is often abused and misused. In some groups of strict opinion they will use the term to de-popularize ADVERSE opinion to their objective. In this context it's kind of socialistic to imply this to a specific discourse and making certain opinions to be simply discrimination in spite of the contrary. It's how some agenda's wish to control opinion, thought and idea.

There are two primary modes of thinking in context to this specific topic in how it has evolved.

1. treatment rights and treatment based awareness.

2. What is and societal awareness of acceptance.

The two will conflict naturally but like the previous poster mentioned about criminality perceptions and autism concerning his\her experience. This is an adverse cultural integration maybe having to do with the cure based treatment rights agenda. I'd like to fathom a way the two can better coexist.


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19 Mar 2011, 6:09 pm

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The two will conflict naturally but like the previous poster mention about criminality perceptions and autism concerning his experience. This is an adverse cultural integration maybe having to do with the cure based treatment rights agenda. I'd like to fathom a way to two can better coexist.


well to be honest it is not only a criminality perception, it is a lot of different things.

but yes, opinions will clash.
i would also like to see a way to better mediate ethical and ideological disputes, as well as build up the tolerance for said.


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19 Mar 2011, 6:24 pm

Actually it is quite vast and goes from how people view disability commonly within cultures to the right to be functionally normal as a desire and to the conflicting thoughts of societal burdens and the right to the desire to be perceived and treated in humane ways despite the non-choice to be a burden. The governing perceptions of disability is connotative of many potential biases and ultimately the pure intention of cure and related treatment idea is happiness for an individual. The intention of cure in PR cannot be determined in an absolute way but in general discourse I'd fathom it to be the pursuit of improvement by choice. To derive support PR way manifest subconscious anxieties within society related to disability indirectly like the I AM AUTISM video.


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19 Mar 2011, 8:53 pm

Do you work for the government, ci?



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19 Mar 2011, 9:05 pm

People have thought several times I work for the CIA. This was when I was social psychologically picking apart UFO and other related conspiracy ideas as an interest. No I don't and have never worked for the government. I don't think they would allow me to because of the disabilities I have least the military said so when I was 15. I'd like to but then again that would be a whole transition and I would need time to get used to everything and have it become predictable.


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19 Mar 2011, 9:20 pm

All you ever talk about is psychobabble. You're complete disinformation and propaganda; look in the mirror. Quite frankly it's people like you that are the greatest threat to freedom and democracy in America.

I hope you get cancer.



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19 Mar 2011, 9:24 pm

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All you ever talk about is psychobabble. You're complete disinformation and propaganda; look in the mirror. Quite frankly it's people like you that are the greatest threat to freedom and democracy in America.

I hope you get cancer.


You mean by thinking for myself and trying to understand other peoples thoughts and them understanding mine so lies cannot be made as easily this is adverse to freedom? As with anything hatred is a resort when one does not get their way and within freedom one can still exist adverse to their opinion. So to remove my freedom you desire for me to die. This sounds like someone who believes in both diversity and freedom but I am exaggerating as your hope is to in fact end my ability to be free by ending my life. Yes I've received threats bu I ignore them and report them. Your desire is not however a threat but does not help your opinion so is beneficial to me and thank you for it as sometimes people will say those things but really be on a different side then they claim.


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19 Mar 2011, 10:21 pm

It's people like you who are the greatest threat to freedom and democracy in America. You are part of the problem to why normal Americans are increasingly becoming radicalized, because your type of thinking leads to repression. Have you been noticing in the news that Federal marshals are increasingly being killed or attacked? I'll tell you why: America is becoming a fascist police state because of the type of garbage disinformation and repression you advocate. You're part of the problem and a detriment to freedom and democracy, How about you take your disinformation and propagandist psychobabble elsewhere? You're so deluded it's unbelievable, and I sincerely pray you get cancer soon. How dare you go to forums of people with disabilities to promote repression against them? You are not making any friends and are merely turning people against the government. congratulations, dumbass.

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19 Mar 2011, 10:51 pm

I am not sure how I could be turning people against the government. People have lots of ideas but ideas such as my own are not always the truth. Yet what you have said is not merely a simple idea. It's part of a greater belief of the world around you and I don't think anything I will say to you will change that belief. I am part of your much larger belief because to you I'm "one of them". What is unfortunate for your perspective is I am a person with autism and people with disabilities think all sorts of ways and not just the ideas from anger and the ways you think in conclusion. Your pinning one extreme world view against the other and as if I am a trader and I think people with disabilities in general like myself treated well albeit the world can be unfair. Just look at how 3rd world countries are we are very lucky.

In conclusion I will say sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me.

A healthy mistrust of the government is good but I think your perspective is just wrong.

Here is a video. It's what I'm going to do in comparison but simply socially to the bad advocates in autism politics that feed on the minds of people with autism and make them believe the world hates them and is Nazi's.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deAAxHFqHa8[/youtube]


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20 Mar 2011, 3:10 pm

Bethie wrote:
I've consulted with several other people, and they concur that this character is likely a troll.

Future posters, you've been warned.


Ci is not a troll. Please don't make such accusations publicly. Ci has a very unusual point of view and a very unusual communication style, and this is to be expected on a site focused on ASD.


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20 Mar 2011, 3:12 pm

This isn't PPR so everyone needs to tone the rhetoric down a few notches.

Thanks :)


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20 Mar 2011, 4:43 pm

Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself. I am simply making an example. Once the first video was posted everyone didn't want more videos posted. It's simply reverse rhetoric and I am really good at it. Just intending to provoke thought and conversation. Seems to be doing well so far with constructive thinking, open thoughts and the existence of diverse opinion.

Nathan Young


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