Autism Pride - No Thank You!

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Autism Pride is prone to interfering with the truth and expressions of compassion to preserve self-esteem on the macro-level. Seeming autism is a disability this can have good and bad results. I believe a balance is needed. The truth of needed services in macro awareness vs. the dignity argument.

Having a problem with how someone is?

The problem is redefining a disability label which is not the entire self and for political reasons. It is misleading the public to have a bunch of ideologically ingrained folks seemingly represent the image of autism for said purpose of self-esteem. You got right wing radio folks calling people with autism brats that just need to grow up who do not want to fund social services and then you magically have these folks that want to redefine autism as this amazing difference which is not representing a seriousness of the disability.

My suggestion is before it gets to ugly to protect those who really are in need is to stop making the autism label a political item for self-esteem for abortion issues (right wing based) when the real solution is to stop focusing so much on the negatives in the first place which is just a diagnoses people have to get the help they need. There is to many conflicts of interest and the organizations that are large, been around for a while and seemingly trustworthy are attacked by some internet people that are profoundly high functioning that commonly cannot be proven credible and want to discredit them. Meanwhile the projected costs of autism are sky high. Smells fishy like the potential but not certainty of not so compassionate people influencing and perhaps manipulating and well that is mainstream politics as usual.

Pardon me for protecting myself and others for not trusting everything I see, hear and what others want me to believe for the sake of what they say as self-esteem(?).

This all may lead to clear cut societal violations of human rights in the form of awareness negligence resulting in abuse. And I will ethically fault the poorly devised pride movement and it's agenda's in the interviews I have with the media. Over the pride of self when autism is not written on peoples foreheads in the first place and as if the stigma is that great and effecting peoples lives as much as when people make mountains out of mole hills to get attention.

I think it might help if they simply stopped using the word "cure". Like mentioned before, there are plenty of symptoms that could be better understood and addressed that would significantly help people on the spectrum without changing who they are. Frankly, from the looks of it, some symptoms can already be addressed if discovered early and therapy done. Maybe we should be concentrating on getting kids tested early enough and into therapy if they need it. Put the shrinks to work.

The identity is political and is effecting the quality of life of people because no one takes autism seriously with people saying how proud they are of it for abortion issues. By saying pop star I mean a big difference like that because most people don't want to be in the first place. Autism as a label is just for the difficulties and I do not know why people other then the abortion issue and for the sake of not liking being labeled in the first want to brag about a disability label when intellectually we are so diverse other then the conditioned social clique stuff that has ingrained this social ideology I have always felt to rebel from.

I think you folks especially with the pride politics are doing a great disservice to those that need the disability taken seriously. I am not going to go into anymore detail with regard to me as It will be called pity and I am of the highest functioning allowed in social service regional center with autisms. Regrettably I'm going to have to do some political persuasion to counter this stuff. Abortion politics and ideological agendas adverse to quality of life funding ought to make themselves clear but for the time being the pride movement is suspect of adverse motives in design or influences but not necessary in all manifest intents of course. My apologies but this world is a mean world and nice is not always nice in intents and I've learned that the hard way..

Cure then is multifaceted and human rights to choose are held intact. Cure(s) for different symptoms as autism is different symptoms and some symptoms within range are beneficial and for other people not beneficial at all such as hyper-focusing which can be adverse and other times not. It's for us to judge personally and not society but society has an ethical and moral obligation to improve our rights, treatment choices and respect who we are in those choices. However as it is human rights that protect the cure modality for cure agenda research it will persist, are endorsed by me and any politician adverse to it online on this forum or others that can be brought to this forum to chat I will object in ways that will leave them blue in the face.

Remember autism manifest neurologically. A cure all is improbable because of innate design which is a difference but certain symptoms adverse to an individual such as sensory overload is key to cure research as well as a lack of speech by understanding the brain and even causally in development. Adults have intact their human rights to choose for themselves and parents have the moral and ethical say so in their own lives and their children's. Pride in the inability to speak, pride in sensory overload and so on is ethically corrupt. Autism (autistic) pride denotes these two highly common symptoms as the label implies these symptoms. Keep with the Neurodiversity concept as that is innate difference but not necessarily innate functional limitation or adverse to choice.

Pride was the wrong approach for a diagnoses label especially calling someone it and against their choice. All the autistic community implies separate from the autism community is those of a specific belief and not all those with autism. So it is misleading.

To claim that even one person is proud to be non-verbal or proud to be overwhelmed by stimuli is ridiculous. NO one thinks that! Most of the members of this site and the vast majority of those that promote self-advocacy are either very high-functioning or they're Aspergians. For those who are greatly debilitated, there is nothing wrong with parents, or other who care, wanting to improve the quality of life for others... as long as we remember that they are not broken.

What IS wrong is to claim that there is something wrong with those who would be perfectly happy being left alone. I was diagnosed as an adult; Asperger's syndrome was not even available as a diagnosis when I was a child and if it WERE, my parents would have never had me evaluated, because they did not ever want to feel like something was WRONG with their super-smart little boy.

So, I got the privilege of being called lazy, uncooperative, or stupid by teachers. I got bullied and taunted by classmates regularly. I embarrassed myself continuously and I grew up feeling like I belonged to some other strange culture... AND I grew up into an adult who did'nt know to interact with people properly... and I wanted to die every day. To make it worse, friends (the few that I had) and family told me that nothing was wrong with me... while at the same time psych docs put me on medications for metal illnesses I did not have.

I was autistic, not crazy! That explained everything! Now, let's pretend we all knew that when I was fifteen! Wouldn't it have been WONDERFUL if there was a group of people who understood me and supported me and and helped me to realize that my differences made me a special, talented person and not a freak of nature? I KNOW that this is not what you are talking about, ci, but the Autism Pride Movement comes much closer to providing that support than the curebies ever could. Autism Speaks and "concerned parents" merely say "something is WRONG with you and we need to fix it" ...yeah, I heard that most of my life and it is (as my therapist once pointed out) a miracle that I'm still alive.

If you feel you need to help people who are miserable, then fine... have at it, but I cherish the opportunity to now be proud of myself for the abilities I have, instead of being ashamed of my shortcomings.

1. I realize that you might be upset that I called YOUR argument ridiculous, but I stand by it.

2. You mentioned "two major conflicts," then only made a veiled suggestion of one.

3. I am not sure what your response (which, in turn threatens a response) means, but I'll assume that you do not know what bullying is. Please look it up; I am not reference material.

4. Do I wish to explain or allow you to just reply? I don't think either are necessary or desirable.

5. If you don't support pride in autism, then just don't participate in it. Live your life as you see fit and let others be happy in their own philosophy. This seems reasonable enough.

Thanks.

No I am talking about your psychology. I have little concern over pride itself but pride goes out of the way to attack research. In what you said about yourself if it were an example of the psychology of pride what 2 conflicts could arise. If others pride were to effects others with ASD who just don't bother with the concept of autism in day to day life also think about this.

I am not going to get petty here and demean you. I want you to think about your argument.

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