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23 Jun 2011, 7:33 pm

Most don't think that way. Many have no idea what your talking about. I don't know how people come up with this kind of belief. Also I am not sure why people call themselves a pathological disorder. It seems other then denoting similarities socially so as to communicate by finding one another the focus on negativity such as a label might be part of the problem. If you want better jobs do what I am doing where I live and I'd be happy to help. Just I tend to keep a distance from public relations philosophical conflicts that are devised simply to conflict with the world around a person with autism. Good jobs come with hard work, don't always work out and just like everyone else success is never guaranteed.


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23 Jun 2011, 7:39 pm

That is because most Bosses do not know what autism is. If a boss hires an autistic unknowingly he will simply dismiss that person as a borderline ret*d especially if the boss has to spend extra time explaining his instructions.



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23 Jun 2011, 7:45 pm

Welcome to the imperfect world as it is. Suddenly it will not become fair. It takes hard work, compromise and creativity to simply begin to make more fair. The world sucks and will always suck if you compare yourself and circumstances to those that were born lucky. You got to be really dedicated to put the balance in your favor. I simply myself do not and cannot for long focus on how unfair it is or that the world "should" do something or else they are terrible people. Instead it's a slow process of compromise and small steps of progress. There I think are many really nice and compassionate people who own businesses that would go the extra mile.


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23 Jun 2011, 7:59 pm

That is why on one of my jobs where I was being picked on and called a mentally ill autistic ret*d by my coworker that I vowed to make a name for myself. It was a very risky move because it involved totally upstaging my boss but at every monthly medical meeting I constantly demonstrated every kind of robotic technology that could help disabled people to my bosses boss.



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23 Jun 2011, 8:55 pm

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Can you please edit your posts so that they do not appear a random collection of long words.

I know you are trying to make it appear that you are clever but it is giving the opposite impression and reading your posts makes my eyes bleed!


Wow, you certainly changed your writing style in a radical manner! :lol:


I will take that as positive feedback.

I am working on my writing skills at the moment as I did not receive much of an education when I was younger.I had to put food on the table for my mum and five siblings from a very early age and regarded school as not relevant to this process.

However, I now run a fairly succesful business and need to get on top of the paperwork side of things and my adult literacy tutor encourages me to post on chat sites.

My PA does however assist by proofing my posts.

However, I have been around long enough to be cautious of people who use long words, for the sake of it, as they are generally:

-trying to conceal the fact that they do not know what they are talking about
-lack self confidence: or
-they are trying to use their education to pull a fast one.

I have been saved a lot of grief over the years by not signing a any contract I do not understand.

Just because people have difficulty reading and writing does not make them thick !



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23 Jun 2011, 10:01 pm

Such people do exist. Yet the majority are not this way. With regards to big words I know a few and use them to trigger a mode of thinking. Such as viewing something strictly logically vs. emotionally. I was told by someone that most of the population does not have advanced reading skills. I am wondering that to presume this true would it be giving in to a perspective that believes itself more superior then others. To presume people are dumb especially when others treated me as dumb and have told me I don't know what I'm talking about is mixed. How can someone not understand and yet understand enough to say someone does not know what they are talking about. My presumption of the matter is I am smart enough to figure out what I'm good at and others may be feeling inferiority that I somehow understand something advanced and yet am presumed intellectually inferior yet at times I am but other times not and they don't know how to handle my style of understanding the world.

In context to this conversation at this point I do not know the individuals whom I am speaking with online. In my world and for some of the individuals I advocate about for inclusion this progress is a struggle. I cannot explain what is wrong or right about my brain nor care much about what is wrong or right. I have terms by which I can advance and terms by which I seem to regress. I am comfortably at my level of inclusion and my methods seek to enhance individualized choices to progress in inclusion given individual strengths, weaknesses and comfort levels.

If someone were to call me an R word I'd likely not care and just keep focusing on what I do. It is my belief others at times focus to much on past experiences and judge the present relevancy with the past experiences as if the present. My suggestion is to believe in yourself and believe in the better sides of human nature in others. The anger and judgement of others I see online here at times is highly counter-productive not only for themselves but for others that may associate and derive from it an altered mind frame toward the world around themselves.

The logic that ones mind one has power over is ultimately empowering if truly realized. The power to personally progress and succeed despite negativity is wholly ones own choice. To be defeated by negatives of the past and false presumptions of the current is self-defeating.


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24 Jun 2011, 12:24 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEQYG3XPL0k[/youtube]



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24 Jun 2011, 1:30 am

That video is funny in context.


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24 Jun 2011, 9:56 am

see below



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24 Jun 2011, 10:07 am

Gallowglass wrote:
If you wish to be a leader you need to be able to communicate with ordinary folk.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt9f-MZX-58[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqpNI4232qg&feature=related[/youtube]

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26 Jun 2011, 11:26 pm

This would seem to lead to the question of what do we do about Aspies who may be prone to "Autistic Supremacist" beliefs. There are those who may have been bullied at school, may well have gone to University and gotten good qualifications - but no matter how hard they try are excluded from work, even from menial minimum wage jobs, due to the difficulties. It is too easy for those to feel hard-done-by by the Neurotypicals when they are so readily excluded in so many different ways. They'll be prone to thinking the peaceful methods have already been tried and have clearly failed. The lack of integration makes it difficult to see how it is possible for people to be enlightened in any way. They may think the "Neurotypicals are going to get what's coming to them" in response to the injustice they feel they have been subjected to all their life, and that because they might never get a job - or may even feel suicidal, that in reality they have absolutely nothing to lose.

I am just the type of person above. It is impossible not to have a complete sense of helplessness in such circumstances.

Could Ryan Cleary's hacking http://www.google.co.uk/search?source=i ... tbo=u&sa=X be an example of such a lash out against the Neurotypical world?



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26 Jun 2011, 11:59 pm

The N.T conceptualism coincides strongly with the societal sphere in analytics. Simply because of how others have portrayed the concept. The N.T establishment and so on. It then can in certain manifestations represent not so much neurology but when applicable anti-societal, anti-social and some aspects of anti-establishmentalism.

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27 Jun 2011, 4:26 am

ci wrote:
The N.T conceptualism coincides strongly with the societal sphere in analytics. Simply because of how others have portrayed the concept. The N.T establishment and so on. It then can in certain manifestations represent not so much neurology but when applicable anti-societal, anti-social and some aspects of anti-establishmentalism.

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Eh?



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27 Jun 2011, 4:51 am

Gallowglass wrote:
Eh?

Yep it took me a few reads.

My interpretation of what he/she is saying is:

When an Aspie interacts with NT's, they acquire an understanding of how NT's "work", unique to them as an Aspie. The Aspie may see NT's in a negative light. When they see the behaviour of an organisation, they may subsequently view that organisation as representing NT ideals, or operating in an NT way. They treat the organisation how they would like to treat NT's.

Erm I could be entirely missing the point, and I'd hate to put words into someone else's mouth. Hope I am close.



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27 Jun 2011, 10:51 am

gazuntight..

No I am speaking about when anti-N.T stuff goes to far.


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27 Jun 2011, 1:06 pm

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For years neurotypicals have tried to sell us on the idea that we are a bunch of borderline ret*ds and that we should be satisfied with the temporary menial jobs that they give us. Now when the autistic fights back and declares that autism is not mental retardation but rather the path to finding ones genius suddenly the neurotypical becomes so resentful that an autistic dares to think of himself as a brilliant genius that the neurotypical doubles up on their effort to find every fault of the autistic in order to humiliate and insult the autistic.

Well anyone who is not an ignorant fool knows that autism/aspergers is not the same thing as mental retardation. Also, I am sure there are pleanty of people with autism and aspergers who are ignorant about depression so should I only be civil towards people with aspergers who have depression I don't think so I don't like to place such limits on people I will associate with.