[Audio]Ari Ne'eman in Inverness

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The worst of people that are already bad and seemingly at their worse representing self-advocacy you mean? As a self-advocate myself there has never been angry confrontations and only constructive solutions in what I do offline. However it would seem some angry self-advocates that got wind of what I do provoked me. Looking at ASAN videos you got videos of very angry people and online folks that support them seem at times to just hate the people around them they call N.T's and blaim them for all their problems. I don't see how I am to blaim about their pre-existing very bad confrontational tact and extraordinarily bad attitude which in no way represent myself or others. Maybe it's becuase I don't compromise with vendictive anger but yet challenge folks to create the solutions. The N.T do not hate people with autism and many would support constructive solutions for employment as an example.

My suggestion is quite the complaining and making others believe the world hates them for having autism and do something more productive together. Perhaps folks do not want to at times. It's easy to just blame others and sit on ones duff or make money speaking about it catering to extremist fractions. I say I am not one bit afraid of challenging these extreme folks and putting them in their place for a better result.

Folks have a vested interest in the strategies of ASAN which were bad to begin with.

You need to be more succinct and less arrogant!

I was kind of trying to be a little arrogant in another post I replied to you just now for the sarcasm humor. Really the intent here is for some kind of advocates to be seen as something entirely different then other kinds of advocates. If anger is enough to be loyal then there is a problem. When anger (hatred) for others is the only reason or of the few reasona to agree then diversity doesn't have much of a chance. ASAN protesters are angry and saying some really bad things about people that care. Some of the people that are fans of ASAN are down right mean spirited and beyond simply rude but emotional bullies. To what extent must I go and others to make sure what ASAN does in their anger does not adversely effect myself and others. It's not so much what they are advocating for most of the time but how they do it.

So let me arrogantly suggest that again I do not agree with the methods and am myself protesting ASAN which to some as they voted is akin to being sacrilegious. Anger is mentally blinding and does not compromise. It is itself arrogant and stuburn. So simply allow me to persist and do as done unto others to make a point.

ASAN does not speak for me nor others that choose for it not to. ASAN also does not speak for those unaware of their behavior to get attention. Mothers, fathers, grandparents and friends are not bigots and I and other self-advocates should not be alienated for their behavior in advocacy.

Others have called Ari arrogant and I've said so as well. You two that support Ari and his groups methods then call me arrogant here. ASAN deserves a little back at them for the terrible thing they have made others out to be and then hopefully they and others will settle down and focus on truly changing lives. I wouldn't recommend others go around calling others arrogant in the long-term. I called him arrogant for going up against the cure concept and not respecting others rights to seek it for themselves. It's a pride related emotion that can be arrogant and can be common with emotions relating to pride. I am neither arrogant nor much prideful. Prideful people tend to express arrogance relating to pride.

My posts also many of them are well organized and readable. There are a few when I am rushed it's otherwise. People communicate differently. Whether it's grammar that's a problem or style. Conforming to another method is not always easy but yet it's been only pride people that demand myself to change how I express myself which is hypocritical when I do not ask them to necessarily change themselves. Yet they don't want others to change them.

Pride there is a problem with in advocacy. It's vastly different then gay pride which is about honoring sexuality. Autism on the other hand is a developmental disability which impairs ones functioning. So it then again is vastly different then other forms of pride. To have pride in a disability and then go up against research for a cure then can be seen as evasive to rights. Not as simple as acceptance vs. intolerance as it is made out to be. The pride advocacy has crossed the line with regards to it's own rights evading others rights and should respect the rights of others. Pride in a disability people experience to me is wrong-headed in part. Others can feel they are attempting to remove the portrayal of it that is needed to be understood, the disability potentially to be corrected and celebrating the hardships people experience when it is not the same for them as everyone else with it when they say it is simply a difference.

People have said autism is the same as.

1. Being gay.
2. Being African American.
3. Being Jewish.
4. The deaf culture.

All of which are their own regards and different from one another themselves let alone to autism.

First of all Ari was bullied in class which should not have happened but maybe he was a slow learner. Then Ari was sent to a ret*d school that failed to stimulate him intelectually. Autistics may be slow learners but given perserverance and learning accomadations they can still accomplish impressive intellectual feats. The ret*d school was sold as a vocational school but all they offered was training in menial jobs rather than highly skilled manual labor jobs.When I was having problems at school rather than sending me to a ret*d school I was sent to an alternative school. Alternative schools may not be as academically rigorous as a conventional school but they are more academically creative.

Autism is classified as a disability and there is no doubt that autism poses unique challenges. But with autism also comes many hyper-abilities and gifts. Teachers and employers that spend the extra time it takes to train the autistic student and worker are suprised to find that these autistics can be their best students and workers. Yet most teachers and employers fail to believe in any potential of the autistic because they regard them as mentally ill and not worth the time it takes to train them.

Unfortunately we have these so called advocates for autism that think that the only good autistic is a cured autistic meaning that they are made to be indistiguishable from their peers. They think that the concept of autism pride is just a pipe dream and that the dream of becomming a genius is like a gambler dreaming that he will win the lottery.

The solution is somewhere in the middle. I will work on this based on your above post. I have an ability to find the least resisted methods in social advocacy politics.