It takes SO much time going through and replying to each individual quote that most of the time I don't bother. Mr. Gedrene has so very little sensitivity and respect in advocacy he openly uses the R word. Any professional advocate knows of the struggle others have undertaken to end that kind of verbiage in the mainstream let alone within advocacy circles where they should know better. No correction by him was taken.
Gedrene wrote:
You can't take any critcisism can you? What the hell does that even mean? Only by making no sense do you ever get heard at all ci. Everything else you say is impenetrable. .
It's the small talk of putting ones own self-image above the best interest of others. The idea of disability does not center around the approval of how strong or how acceptable it is but in light of the truth where facts are true reality. Facts do not change because of abortion agenda’s, ideas of superiority or a few that desire to make autism out into an identity to abide by.
Gedrene wrote:
I cannot believe you can be so two-faced. Of course you're broadcasting it to the public! You're posting in a public forum!
I am speaking about public awareness pieces in official advocacy. This forum is not official advocacy it’s more so a support group then mainstream awareness but it is publicly available. In professional broadcasts such as the radio ads I posted, news media articles and printed organization information’s I do not get into those items of discussion or even on the official website.
ci wrote:
Compassion is a method of adaptation
Gedrene wrote:
No it isn't. Compassion is a form of mercy on the unfortunate.
Yes it is. It is of and related to emotions and the modality of adaptive approaches.
ci wrote:
and the individuals able to graduate college and are very independent don't nee. this kind of advocacy.
Gedrene wrote:
That's terribly self-centred to think you can insulate yourself from those who are capable.
The hell it is. They are welcome to work as support employees but it’s a world of difference between someone that does not struggle in a life limiting way preventing substantial employment and those that are not. Enough with them trying to take over and benefit from advocacy for those who are determined under the law to be substantially disabled. No more exploitation such as what ASAN has done and got companies to hire just the most abled. That’s a load of bull when others are isolated and or dirt poor.
ci wrote:
It's very self-centered to remove compassion for the sake of prides ego and it's image.
Gedrene wrote:
Pride's ego? or is that pride, ego and it's image? In either case this is padding trying to appear as a salient point.
I think what I’m trying to say is some folks need to back off or become politically challenged. When they hate on compassionate means and do not need those means for the sake of their otherwise very high functioning ego’s and autism that’s truly and profoundly selfish. I’d be happy to hand them their a**’s on a very visible political platter for all the see. No one else has had a problem with what I’ve done and the successes I’ve achieved other then pride people and I’d be much obliged to serve them what they deserve socially should they do so again.
ci wrote:
Those that use autism simply to say how gifted they are and suppress the advocacy of those who are in need of a differing adaption strategy are worse then real discrimination.
Gedrene wrote:
Well fair enough. That's okay actually.
We will see to what extent you think it’s fair as I tell some others to shove off that are more about their ego’s and autism then the needs of those who are left in this world with very little opportunity.
ci wrote:
They are in fact enabling the agenda of reducing equality.
Gedrene wrote:
Meh.. *does a maybe gesture* From the point of view of your people that would be true. But there are arguments people have to the contrary. .
If the approach is good I won’t socially and politically knock it to them. Behind the scenes if someone comes to me that’s from the pride faction and has a civil conversation I might consider it. However it’s only pride that’s been profoundly confrontational with me and I’ll say it quite openly. Them folks didn’t realize just how good and how strong the response would be. You and them want some respect from me you got to give it first but unlike them I don’t want anyone to bow down and worship me for drummed up persecution around every corner in my imagination to get my way.
ci wrote:
People with Asperger's Syndrome do not qualify for the facilitated inclusion supports I advocate about and when applicable for.
Gedrene wrote:
Well make that more clear when you then bash me over the head with your delusions. Maybe then you'll understand that when you say a cure-fits-all policy is okay you might be making a slight assumption.
Listen Gedrene the organization I brought up with those PSA videos and proposition for awareness focuses in the greater autism community has nothing to do with cure. I do not establish the laws that prevent people with A.S from qualifying. It’s your delusion and combining the issues along with your disrespectful usage of the R word toward others like some school aged bully brat that’s doesn’t know any better. Conversation on this forum has been about all kinds of issues. This conversation is about transitional inclusion under compassionate purposes as an awareness focus.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PXgFLlJLO8[/youtube]
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The peer politics creating intolerance toward compassion is coming to an end. Pity accusations, indifferent advocacy against isolation awareness and for pride in an image of autism is injustice.
http://www.autismselfadvocacynetwork.com
22 Jul 2011, 8:45 pm
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